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Capturing Xbox 360 To PC via Component
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Rowan88
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2008 09:21 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Hi,

Ok ive been trying to find a way that I can capture my Xbox 360 footage on my TV to my PC for editing etc.

Now I have found a good way which shows you easily:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxnxpDel8WA&feature=related

But the only problem is that you have to play and record in almost Composite (Yellow). Now I dont mind recording in Composite etc, but I want to be able to play my games as normal on HD Component (Red, Green, Blue).

Does anyone know of a way we can do this?

Like is there a External USB device for component or something. Even a capture card that takes component but doesnt need to record in component just so we can view the games in the proper HD component.

If you look at that video, its the same as we want to do, but we want to be able to play in full component.

Thanks in advance,

Rowan88

edDV
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2008 10:24 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Expensive territory.

If you want to watch HD and record SD there are boxes that down convert 720p or 1080i to 480i for recording.

If you demand HD 720p recording then follow the other link for issues around the Black Magic Intensity. 720p recording is an advanced topic and needs a high performance PC.
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Rowan88
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2008 10:52 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
When I say play in HD I dont mean HDMI, I mean basically have it so we can sit and play on the Red,Green,Blue cable so we get good quality, and then just record that in whatever quality neccessary to the pc, I dont care if its low bit 400x300, just aslong as its good enough to see in youtube lol.

On the video tut above this is the setup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Joel101/good1.jpg

Now we are happy with that but its just finding a way so rather than playing in the low quality on the tele, we can play in the full Red, Green, Blue quality so we dont loose any quality from the tv.

I dont mind about the quality on the other end of the monitor as its just to record some footage and make little videos with.

Looking at the picture, its basically something to replace the Dazzle Box(Red, White, Yellow) with something that can take Component (Red, Blue, Green), I think...

edDV
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2008 11:37 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
It all comes down to budget.

Component 480i will cost you ~$150 (e.g. AVS Pyro) plus a component distribution amp ~$60.

Component 720p will cost up upwards of $400 (Intensity Pro plus cables) plus a fast PC.
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Rowan88
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2008 11:39 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Ok 2 things:

1) What does the xbox play on at hd 480i or 720p?

2) Can you link me to the AVS Pyro

And like I said it doesnt need to record in component, just watch/play on it (TV)

edDV
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2008 11:59 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
XBox360 does 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i over analog component.


http://www.videoguys.com/pyroAVlink.html

plus a YPbPr DA
http://www.bizrate.com/videoaccessories/oid544568819.html
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Rowan88
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2008 12:00 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I dont see the component connectors on that m8, only the composite :S

Does that take Red Green Blue.

I mean I see it says:
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an external box that connects to your computer via FireWire. With Composite, S-Video and Component connectors, capture video from any source.


Does anyone have pictures of this to see?

edDV
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2008 12:03 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
look at the back

Don't you have Google?

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Rowan88
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starwarrior29
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2008 12:06 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I have one of these and it works very good: http://www.myhava.com/product_hava_platinum_hd.html

It allows you to play your 360 games on your tv in hi defintion while it streams the signal through your router allowing you to record your game play video on your computer.

edDV
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2008 12:07 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Yes the Hava will convert HD to 480i
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Rowan88
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2008 12:08 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
So if I buy that instead of the Dazzle, it would be the same setup as the Youtube tutorial except that I would just put teh component into there and then into PC and walah?

ADS Pyro A/V
http://www.adstech.com/products/API-557-EFS/intro/api557_intro.as ... PI-557-EFS

Ok I found them for around £60-70 so is it safe to buy one of them...?

Or

Would I be better paying around the same and getting the
http://shop.myhava.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=3&HS=1

I can get the HAVA for £82.56


So what is my best option?

Rowan88
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Post Posted: Jan 08, 2008 10:32 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Just to update this thread I bought the HAVA HD Platinum and it got dispatched today, so I should have it soon hopefully...

Once I get ill rig it up and give you a review on it.

Thanks again for all your help and mostly edDV for his patience lol.

Ryand833
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Post Posted: Jan 29, 2008 19:13 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I read all the posts in this article, but I'm still a little un-sure if the Pyro A/V Link will do what I want it to....

I have a PS3 and I play on my TV at 720p. I would LOVE to be able to capture video on my PC of the PS3 gameplay, and just as the original poster stated, I don't care if it is recorded in standard (low) definition.

I just want to be able to record at any resolution on my PC and still play on my TV in full 720p.

Does the ADS Tech Pyro A/V Link down-convert from a 720p component signal to standard def (what is it, 480i)?

I've sent in a support request to ADS Tech asking them the same question but have not received a response.

Here is a little diagram of how I'd have my stuff hooked up:



edDV
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Post Posted: Jan 29, 2008 20:32 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Ryand833 wrote:


Does the ADS Tech Pyro A/V Link down-convert from a 720p component signal to standard def (what is it, 480i)?



No. You would need to run the PS3 in 480i mode. The Pyro A/V Link does NOT accept 480p/720p/1080i. It only accepts 480i or 576i.
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Ryand833
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Post Posted: Jan 29, 2008 21:03 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
edDV wrote:
Ryand833 wrote:


Does the ADS Tech Pyro A/V Link down-convert from a 720p component signal to standard def (what is it, 480i)?



No. You would need to run the PS3 in 480i mode. The Pyro A/V Link does NOT accept 480p/720p/1080i. It only accepts 480i or 576i.


Thanks for the quick reply -- I posted too fast I guess, should have done some more reading.

I read a few other posts and it looks like the HAVA Platinum HD will do what I'm trying to....

williamos
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Post Posted: Feb 02, 2008 00:07 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Rowan did the HAVA work, i might buy 1 if it works 4 sure
Plz let me no

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Post Posted: Feb 02, 2008 10:32 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Why not just wait for Hauppauge USB2 HD PVR which coming out sometime in march.
From what I under stand it dose 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i and possablely 1080p from component and capture in same rez and capture in H264/AVC.
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williamos
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Post Posted: Feb 02, 2008 12:50 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
i already bought the hava i hope its easy to install.

CitricaciD
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Post Posted: Feb 02, 2008 13:45 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
that hauppage capture card will be amazing if it truly does do lossless encoding

Ryand833
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Post Posted: Feb 02, 2008 18:41 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
williamos wrote:
i already bought the hava i hope its easy to install.


I bought the HAVA and it works, and is relatively easy to install. It allows me to play in HD while recording in SD -- does the job for now.

However, when that hauppauge device comes out... it goes without saying that I'll be purchasing one.

CHEDARBOB
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Post Posted: Mar 10, 2008 13:23 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
OK I want to know how to take video from my xbox 360 to my PC. I dont need it in HD I just need to record video for Clan matches or small videos ect. So it doesnt have to be pritty, I just want the videos for MLG and to have hard prof of the match


Thanx

edDV
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Post Posted: Mar 10, 2008 13:49 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
CHEDARBOB wrote:
OK I want to know how to take video from my xbox 360 to my PC. I dont need it in HD I just need to record video for Clan matches or small videos ect. So it doesnt have to be pritty, I just want the videos for MLG and to have hard prof of the match


Thanx


S-Video to TV, composite NTSC to a capture card or visa versa.
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StEaLtHsHoT
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Post Posted: Dec 01, 2008 18:27 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Any update on these card from anyone I have some questions about them.

edDV
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Post Posted: Dec 01, 2008 20:09 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
StEaLtHsHoT wrote:
Any update on these card from anyone I have some questions about them.


Not much new other than the Hauppauge HD-PVR. It caps HD component to HD h.264 and has a loop to the HDTV for live play. Use search for "Hauppauge HD-PVR".
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Post Posted: Dec 05, 2008 18:57 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
edDV wrote:
StEaLtHsHoT wrote:
Any update on these card from anyone I have some questions about them.


Not much new other than the Hauppauge HD-PVR. It caps HD component to HD h.264 and has a loop to the HDTV for live play. Use search for "Hauppauge HD-PVR".


Do you know if there is any delay/lag on the loop output?

edDV
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Post Posted: Dec 05, 2008 19:02 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I don't have one. Try posting your question in a new thread.
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