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Dust particles on every damn Verbatim and TY Cake Box

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faramith
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Post Posted: Oct 17, 2007 08:22 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Hi guys, been having trouble with the media lately, Ive ordered TY and Verbatim cake boxes from Genesys DTP and New Egg and all of them came with dust particles in the recording surface all the damn DVD-Rs. I try to blow out some of them but some dont come off, when I burn the dvds in the areas where the dust particle is it doesnt get recorded. Thing is when I verify the discs it says it recorded OK, and when I use nero to verify it says 100% fine. Is there anything im overloooking?

Theres only one reason Im ordering these and its because of the great quality everyone tells they have, but if they come with dust particles its not helping in anyway, I need them to make masters discs and important backup. The only DVD-R that can be bought in my country are the TDK that cotsco sells and the Memorex that Sam's sell, the verbatim that office max sells is not the same ones I order they are normal verbs and they are ultra expensive, Oh and in these there are no dust particles like the ones I order online.

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oldandinthe way
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Post Posted: Oct 17, 2007 08:49 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

OfficeMax runs $15/50 disk Verbatim cake box in the Boston area with some frequency. If what you are getting is cheaper than that, I'd suggest there is something wrong with them.

Since Verbatim has customer support I suggest you tell them about this problem, they are very responsive. As for the TYs I don't know that they have any enduser support.


lordsmurf
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Post Posted: Oct 17, 2007 08:54 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

If there are unburned spots on your disc, the burn is bad. Nero verification is worthless and lying to you. Error correction is being use to play back the disc, and that's not good right out of the burner.

You need to use a can of compressed air to blow off the dust.

What does this mean: "the verbatim that office max sells is not the same ones I order they are normal verbs and they are ultra expensive"? Verbatim is Verbatim. You have inkjet, branded and unbranded. Only buy from a good dealer, to avoid fakes.

All media has some degree of dust in the package. These are packaged in warehouses, after all. Compressed air is your friend.
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faramith
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Post Posted: Oct 17, 2007 09:02 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

faramith
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Post Posted: Oct 17, 2007 09:04 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

thx for the replyies, sams sells a package of 3 cans of compressed air, i heard they can damage plastic is this true?

about different verbs, Valueline and data life pluse are different right?


oldandinthe way
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Post Posted: Oct 17, 2007 09:13 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

The verbatims farasmith linked to are 8x media are they still being produced?

Could this be old closeout stock?


AlanHK
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Post Posted: Oct 17, 2007 09:37 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Just rinse them in water, pat dry with a lint-free towel.

I buy a lot of used DVDs, often they're grubby and dusty, so I wash them all before playing the first time.

Seems less hassle to me than trying to get a refund.


samijubal
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Post Posted: Oct 17, 2007 09:53 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Plexus is hands down the best way to clean discs. Spray it on and wipe with a soft cloth. The Plexus keeps the cloth from scratching the disc and does an amazing job of cleaning at the same time. It can be bought in motorcycle shops for around $7-$15 depending on what size can you get.

xSimonx
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Post Posted: Oct 17, 2007 10:34 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Talking about Verbatim fakes, here in Costa Rica you can find some CD´s with the same cover as the Verbatim ones, but if you look closely it says "VerbatiN", "surprisingly" those fake CD`s are available in some chinese stores lol so you have to be aware just in case.

faramith
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Post Posted: Oct 18, 2007 15:15 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Well I bought the perfect duster can from Sams club and its working great, too bad each 3 can set costs me $8.50 after tax, and it seems ill be needing these cans a lot so I think I might have to buy a small air compressor. Anyone knows how much PSI are on these cans?

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Gen-An
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Post Posted: Oct 18, 2007 21:52 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

oldandinthe way wrote:
The verbatims farasmith linked to are 8x media are they still being produced?

Could this be old closeout stock?


TY and MCC both still make 8x media, probably due in part to the popularity in their home country of Japan as well as with the pro market.


redwudz
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Post Posted: Oct 19, 2007 05:05 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Those 'canned air' aerosol cans probably put out about 5 - 10 PSI. It's not air, though. Usually some sort of liquid that expands rapidly. They used Freon or some other hydrocarbons in the earlier versions. Be careful to hold them upright or they can spray out liquid. You also shouldn't be breathing that stuff too much, either. sad.gif

If you get some sort of air compressor make sure it doesn't output any oil or water or you will defeat the purpose of using air. I would stay away from tire inflator types of compressors. I would look into a compressor used for air brushing. Check the artist or hobby stores. Or for cheap, a large rubber bulb type ear syringe works well.



I suspect your problem is more likely related to static electricity. That's what can attract the dust and make it stick to items. Common in low humidity areas, but at your listed location it would seem unusual unless you have air conditioning and a closed environment. Nylon carpets can generate a lot of static also. I used to work on electronic components at home in my bare feet to keep down the static. laugh.gif


Marvingj
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Post Posted: Oct 19, 2007 06:26 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Just rinse them in water, pat dry with a lint-free towel. Like AlanHK stated....+
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samijubal
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Post Posted: Oct 19, 2007 12:23 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Use Plexus. I've been using it for years, there's nothing better. A $7 can will last for many months, years if not heavily used.

lordsmurf
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Post Posted: Oct 19, 2007 13:10 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Don't put chemicals on a blank disc for any reason whatsoever.
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samijubal
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Post Posted: Oct 20, 2007 06:49 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Plexus doesn't hurt discs. I've used it on blank and burned discs for years. There's nothing better.

lordsmurf
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Post Posted: Oct 20, 2007 10:01 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Cleaning chemicals alter the quality of the light, even the slightest residue. Given the narrow beam of light used to burn a disc, it's not suggested.
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samijubal
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Post Posted: Oct 20, 2007 15:10 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I've cleaned some of my RWs at least 20-30 times and they still work fine. It will not harm discs in any way.

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