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freebird73717 Member
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gadgetguy Contestant
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Looks good, but of course I have some suggestions which are completely based on my own opinions and preferences, so do with them what you want.
Selecting auto gop should disable the gop length scroll and ideally the auto selected value should be displayed, but I don't think that you can do that (since you won't have feedback from HC). Deselecting auto gop should enable the scroll.
The interlaced fields frame should not be visible unless interlaced is checked. When visible the TFF/BFF options should be radio buttons since it has to be one or the other.
Is there a way to view the job list from within the GUI? It may be useful if you get interrupted and forget where you left off.
And maybe the ability to edit the job list to be able to remove duplicate entries.
Does the ini file display allow for direct editing to add tweaks or comments not covered by the gui, (like chapter points)?
Can you select a line and turn it into a comment instead of completely deleting it?
Also automatically deleting the ini files should be an option, unless there is some way it can detect the drive filling up (or some other error) and stop the batch accordingly. In my experience a batch will keep running even though HC errors out and automatically deleting the ini files means starting from scratch.
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freebird73717 Member
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Thanks for the reply. This is my first attemp at a gui so it's a learning process...that and I've only been coding for about two weeks now.
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Selecting auto gop should disable the gop length scroll and ideally the auto selected value should be displayed, but I don't think that you can do that (since you won't have feedback from HC). Deselecting auto gop should enable the scroll. |
I tried to mimic the auto gop function in hc. Will look into it further.
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The interlaced fields frame should not be visible unless interlaced is checked. When visible the TFF/BFF options should be radio buttons since it has to be one or the other. |
I agree and will change that in the next release.
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Is there a way to view the job list from within the GUI? It may be useful if you get interrupted and forget where you left off.
And maybe the ability to edit the job list to be able to remove duplicate entries. |
The "job list" is actually just the individual saved ini files. While I'm sure there is a way to do what you are suggesting I'm not quite sure how but will look into it.
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Does the ini file display allow for direct editing to add tweaks or comments not covered by the gui, (like chapter points)?
Can you select a line and turn it into a comment instead of completely deleting it? |
I should be able to add that. Will do some searching to find out how.
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Also automatically deleting the ini files should be an option, unless there is some way it can detect the drive filling up (or some other error) and stop the batch accordingly. In my experience a batch will keep running even though HC errors out and automatically deleting the ini files means starting from scratch. |
I was on the fence about that one. My main reason for auto deleting the ini files after the encode was that newbies may not know to go in and manually delete them after the encode so that they won't encounter errors when starting a new batch encode. But I should be able to add a button to click so that the user can delete the files his/herself.
Thanks for the feedback. It's helping me improve the app! I will work on implementing the suggestions. I can only code in my part time so it may be a week or so before changes are made. Would you be willing to evaluate the next release for me?
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gadgetguy Contestant
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Keep posting back here, and I'll keep reading, trying, and commenting. I don't really do a lot of batch processing, but I've always got a few unprocessed videos hanging around that I can test with.
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freebird73717 Member
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Second release is out.
edit outdated don't download. Go to sourceforge to download latest.
hcbatchgui_release_2
Changes made.
#Added button and dropdown box to change/select the matrix
#Added manual gop selection. When auto gop is unchecked man gop becomes visible. When man. gop is checked auto gop becomes invisible.
#Interlaced fields option is only visible when interlaced is checked.
#Added ability to select a line and replace it with your own text.
#Removed auto delete ini funtion (so files would not be lost in case of an error)
#Added Delete all ini button to remove ini files after sucessful encode.
#TO DO
Add ability to view current job list.
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gadgetguy Contestant
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My prior comments were based on your screenshots and comments. I actually tried to install and run it this time. Installed OK, but won't run without .NET framework v2. I'm running W2K and don't have the .NET framework installed. What .NET features are you using and is it really necessary?
I can try it on my laptop when I get a chance, but that's not the computer that I do most of my video editing on and I would be unlikely to actually use your program there. I am also unlikely to install .NET on my primary PC.
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freebird73717 Member
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freebird73717 Member
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3rd release is out.
edit outdated. go to sourceforge to download latest.
hcbatchgui 3rd release
#Added Text box/review of job list. Allows for opening saved ini files and reviewing them.
#Fixed Modify selected line. Now if you select a line in the ini display box it also puts that text in the Modify box so you can directly edit the line.
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gadgetguy Contestant
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I still haven't gotten around to trying it on my laptop, but a suggestion I made earlier about GOP and AutoGOP should be re-examined because I misunderstood the AutoGOP feature and how it works. (You got me thinking and reading.) Autogop allows you to specify a maximum GOP length of between 12 and 18 so there should be a way to set that. (Again, haven't actually seen it yet, maybe you already did this.)
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freebird73717 Member
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| gadgetguy wrote: |
| Autogop allows you to specify a maximum GOP length of between 12 and 18 so there should be a way to set that. (Again, haven't actually seen it yet, maybe you already did this.) |
Yep now fixed. You can set the autogop max from 12 to 18 or uncheck the autogop and "Man. GOP" will become visible allowing you to set fixed GOP length.
I hope the .net requirement doesn't put too many people off. Didn't realize that C# required .net when I started learning it. After researching programming languages it just seemed the easiest to learn. I am also looking into C++ to try and make the app more standalone (but don't expect it anytime soon).
Thanks for all the input! All of your suggestions have been good ones.
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gadgetguy Contestant
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I'm only marginally knowledgeable about C (in any flavor) in that I can read the code and usually figure out most of what it's doing, but I don't program in it and don't have any compilers, so I'm speculating here (and would be happy to be corrected by someone who knows for sure), but I don't think any of them should actually require .net be a requirement in the applications they build. However it is probably M$ default to include reference to the .net libraries even if they aren't used in the code and that makes any application made with it require .net be installed. If you can figure out how to remove the library references from the compiled application, .net shouldn't be required.
Having said that, you may not have that option in the compiler version you have.
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freebird73717 Member
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I used Sharpdevelop. You can read up about it here. It requires .net.
However I have read about a compiler called the MONO project that will compile C# without .net. Read about it here. I will read up on it myself and if I can get it working I will compile a .net free version as I want this app to be as stand alone as possible.
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AlanHK Member
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I haven't installed this, not having NET2, but a small comment:
One annoyance with HC's own GUI is that the default output file remains the same, even when you change the input file. Thus a few times when neglecting that I've overwritten a file. (One reason I wrote my own primitive batch scripter, mentioned elsewhere.) It looks like this has the same behaviour.
I suggest the default output file name be changed automatically, to have the same root name as the input AVS file. And maybe a check to warn if the output file already exists.
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freebird73717 Member
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edit. confirmed still requiring .net as of right now.
Gadgetguy or AlanHK. Would either of you be willing to test my next release. I have read up on compiling C# with the mono project (runs off of mono runtimes instead of .net) so you should be able to use the app on computers without .net installed. You can read the article here
hcbatchgui_no_dot_net_test.exe
Thanks for all your help guys. It is much appreciated.
AlanHK I looked into changing the default save filename but couldn't change it the way you suggested. I could set a default name that would show up everytime like"your file.m2v" but that wouldn't really solve anything so I left it alone. It's to bad too because I liked the suggestion.
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Last edited by freebird73717 on Sep 07, 2007 14:22, edited 1 time in total
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gadgetguy Contestant
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I tried the hcbatchgui_no_dot_net_test.exe. Install goes OK, but as soon as you try to start the app, the error message about needing .net framework v2 pops up and execution stops. So it's still requiring .net to run.
P.S. Check your PM
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freebird73717 Member
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Baldrick Administrator
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I added a link to the hcbatchgui to the hc encoder tool page.
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gadgetguy Contestant
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| I added a link to the hcbatchgui to the hc encoder tool page. |
How come it doesn't show in the new tools list?
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