Question about IP addresses?

RoundTop · Member Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Location: United States

What do the different numbers mean?

72.92.2.115

72.94.223.232

These are to of my old IPs, I notice it always starts in 72, and next is either 92 or 94.

Also, what is my MAC IP and how do I change it?

jameshgross · Member Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Location: cleveland, oh

Please Google "IP addresses" all your questions will be answered.

gadgetguy · Contestant Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Location: Michigan, USA

There's no such thing as a MAC IP. A MAC address is a hardware identification assigned by the manufacturer, however there are devices that can clone or allow you to manually set a different address. An IP address is assigned by a network using the TCP/IP network protocol (the same as what's used for the Internet). It can be automatically assigned by a DHCP server or manually set on each device in the network.
The Internet IP addresses are purchased(rented?) in blocks by the various ISPs. In your case the first two segments have identified at least part of the "block" that your ISP purchased.
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fLYtRap · Member Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Location: United States

Those IP adresses are asigned by Verizon Internet Services. If you have a static IP number you can change it by installing operating system on another computer if you have 2 or more. But in this case first 2 numbers will not change.
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ZippyP. · Member Joined: 14 Nov 2002 Location: Lotus Land

If you have a router you can program the Mac address in the setup.
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RoundTop · Member Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Location: United States

To clone your network adapter¡¦s MAC address onto the Router and avoid calling your ISP to change the registered MAC address, follow these instructions:

1. Select Enable.

2. Enter your adapter¡¦s MAC address in the MAC Address field.

3. Click the Save Settings button.

What do they mean 'clone'?

How do I change the MAC?

RoundTop · Member Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Location: United States

Also I have two MACs?

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Which one can be seen online?

Also the one in my router's menu is different from both of the above.

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redwudz · Mod Neophyte Joined: 07 Sep 2002 Location: AZ, USA

Each LAN NIC would have a MAC number and your router would have one also, and your modem. You can 'clone' your PCs MAC number to your router. That way you router looks like your computer to the ISP. Few ISPs care anymore if you have a router and probably more than one computer behind it. But a few ISP's may use your PC's MAC for identification for login. That's another reason to clone it to the router. If you router has a different MAC number than your computer and you system works, then your ISP doesn't check it or care.

But I would still clone your primary PC MAC number to your router. That way, no matter what computer you have on the LAN, your MAC number will always remain the same. Probably your MAC number can only be seen by the ISP. I'm not sure about that. But your ISP knows who you are anyway, so none of that is a problem.

Routers use NAT (Network Address Translation) to convert your ISP issued addresses to 'Internet' addresses, usually 192.168.0.X and X is between 100 and 255.

You could change your MAC number by replacing the NIC. But your modem's MAC won't change, so that's just a waste of time. For cable modems, it's usually written on the bottom of the modem.

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You can use Notepad to create a text file. It must be placed in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc and must be named HOSTS. Notepad and other Windows programs like to add extensions onto filenames so have the period following HOSTS when saving it, and just copy and paste those lines in. Alternatively, there is a good, yet small and efficient, HOSTS file available from Sponge's Security Site which has a HOSTS file that blocks about 99.9% of all the ad and major tracking sites out there. If you download it, place it in the aforementioned directory, but be sure to rename the file so it is named just HOSTS., because the file from that site has a .txt extension, and it won't work unless you remove that.

As far as Ebay/Paypal, the deal is that Ebay/Paypal route everything you do through Doubleclick/Google as a way of identifying you as an individual and tracking you through those sites, and possibly the internet in general (Doubleclick and Google were by far the two largest data-mining companies in the world, and Google just bought Doubleclick, so now Google really is Big Brother.)

Blocking them, however, should not affect Ebay or Paypal. I use both (as a buyer though), and have not had the slighest problem, though Paypal's sign-in page does run a bit slower and there are no graphics there. However, given Ebay/Paypal's rather sordid record at privacy, and the fact that they've made an unholy union with the biggest data-mining conglomerate in the world, a few seconds extra to sign in and not having to sift through Paypal credit card offers is well worth it!

fLYtRap · Member Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Location: United States

I am just wondering how is this all legal. I mean they infect every ones computers with tracking cookies and get away with that?

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gadgetguy · Contestant Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Location: Michigan, USA

I think you all missed the point of NiteLite's post about Google. I don't think he was concerned about ads so much as the search results all come from people selling something as opposed to white paper information about the search subject. The solutions listed will block advertisements, but they won't stop search results showing vendors.
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TBoneit · Member Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Location: USA

flytRap infected is a rather strong word. If they bother you turn off all cookies in your browser.

Some sites will not work and others will not work right and you will always need to login at sites, no more remember me so the site logs you in when you return. Why are you paranoid about cookies? they are mainly harmless. IMHO of course. If you want to clean them out IE has a place under the tools menu.

RoundTop · Member Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Location: United States

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RoundTop · Member Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Location: United States

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RoundTop · Member Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Location: United States

Visit and see what it does.

gadgetguy · Contestant Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Location: Michigan, USA

I'm not the one seeking an education here, nonetheless...
It shows the IP address that my ISP assigned to my routers WAN port and my ISP resolved name. As expected. If you see a different address then either you are looking at the IP address for the wrong port on your router or you have a proxy involved (whether you are aware of it or not). In the case of a proxy changing your MAC to receive a different IP may have no effect on the address given by the proxy to the outside world.
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Nelson37 · Member Joined: 14 Aug 2001

RoundTop - what is your concern and/or what is it you are trying to achieve?

The MAC address is really not used much anymore. It is possible to have two different hardware with the same address, I have seen it and confirmed by two other techs. Cloning this address to the router serves little real purpose.

As for hardware/software able to detect this, there is little risk unless you are a bank or other hi-security enterprise, or perhaps are engaged in other activities.

If security is this high-level a concern, you are looking in the wrong place for answers and/or need real expert help.

You may be a bit confused between External, or WAN, IP address and your Internal, or LAN IP address. Think of the WAN like your company phone number, and the LAN like your internal extension. A call comes in, and the Switchboard operator directs, or Routes, the call to your extension. Unlike the phone, the extension number or LAN address is not accessable from the outside, unless the Router is specifically programmed for this through an open port, such as for Terminal Services or PCAnywhere.

RoundTop · Member Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Location: United States

So what is everything that CAN be seen by someone online, when I log into a forum for instance?

Both by a MOD/ADMIN.... I'm pretty sure members can't see anything just like me.

Nelson37 · Member Joined: 14 Aug 2001

If you have a webcam and they have the right software, they can see the end of your nose.

Typically, they do not see anything other than your router's External IP.

Also typically, if "they" are doing any other snooping, "they" are not going to tell you or anyone else about it.