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New Philips Upscaling DVD Player DVP5982/37 1080P! and USB 2.0 Support?
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bobsolo
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Post Posted: Mar 10, 2007 21:57 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I don't know when it's expected to street, but the philips website has their new DVP5982/37 which looks to improve on the DVP5960 by adding 1080p upconverting and USB 2.0 support.

Details here

User guide here.

Amazon has it for preorder for $69.99 here

Can't wait to see how this handles large files off an external HD that the USB 1.1 just couldn't pass well.

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jagabo
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Post Posted: Mar 10, 2007 22:16 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I didn't see any mention of USB 2.0, just USB.

bobsolo
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Post Posted: Mar 11, 2007 10:07 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Page 33 of the user manual:

Compatible USB mass storage device:
– USB flash memory (USB 2.0 or USB 1.1)
– USB flash players (USB 2.0 or USB 1.1)
– memory cards (requires an additional card reader to work with this DVD player).

Supported formats:
– USB or memory file format FAT16, FAT 32 (sector size: 2K bytes)

jagabo
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Post Posted: Mar 11, 2007 10:44 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I don't think that means the port is USB 2.0. A USB 1.1 port can read USB 2.0 devices, it just reads them a 1.1 speeds. If the port was USB 2.0 I expect they would say so directly.

bobsolo
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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2007 09:10 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
According to Philips technical support, the USB port is 2.0 compliant. Guess we'll have to wait and see. Sales/Customer support couldn't give me street date.

CBC
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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2007 10:00 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
At $70 retail, it looks to be a giant killer. Hopefully Phillips improves their build quality/reliability/ compatibility over their older models, i.e. the 642

handyguy
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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2007 11:23 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Yes & do something about that silly remote control.

jagabo
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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2007 11:24 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
bobsolo wrote:
According to Philips technical support, the USB port is 2.0 compliant.

That still sounds like marketing-speak for "it's a USB 1.1 port but it's 2.0 compliant." I hope you're right about the USB port though.

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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2007 11:34 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Ha ! I was going to buy a 5960 but will wait now. I would think, this has to be usb2.0 as the 5960 already does all the rest, I mean why would a CE company release a model with no new features? cool.gif
Sadly it will be $70 = £70 (or maybe even more) *grinds teeth* sad.gif
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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2007 12:04 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Nope, cant see any New features on there
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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2007 22:36 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
1080p

RabidDog
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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2007 22:47 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
is that the price?

is that all ? wheres the 1980p I was promised 3 years ago
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hgh
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Post Posted: Mar 13, 2007 20:33 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I hope that it improves upon the 5960.

Xvid support?
WMV support?
USB 2.0 features, i.e., Can you use Windows Media Center to play videos from a Laptop?
Divx Ultra, does it support the menu's from the Divx Authoring tool?
What chipset does it utilize?

Please post more info as it becomes available

jsevinsk
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Post Posted: Mar 15, 2007 15:02 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I have the 5960. I will upgrade to the 5982 only if it supports USB 2.0 and long filenames from the DVD and over USB.

Being able to eject the disc without turning on the player and waiting half a minute would be nice too.

jagabo
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Post Posted: Mar 15, 2007 15:24 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Microsoft holds patents relating to long filenames in the FAT file system. I doubt any new player from Philips will implement long filenames for FAT devices.

http://news.com.com/Microsofts+file+system+patent+upheld/2100-101 ... 25447.html

handyguy
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Post Posted: Mar 16, 2007 11:39 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Someone wrote some home brew FW that supports long file names.

jagabo
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Post Posted: Mar 16, 2007 11:44 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
handyguy wrote:
Someone wrote some home brew FW that supports long file names.

I've only seen long filename hacks for DVDs. Never for USB. FAT (via USB) uses a very different method to do long filenames.

ahnree
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Post Posted: Mar 16, 2007 14:14 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Have you all noticed the MSRP of 5960 is $79 while 5982 is only $59.

MonkeyDudeSF
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Post Posted: Mar 16, 2007 15:52 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Specifications:

Picture/Display
D/A converter : 12 bit, 108 MHz
Picture enhancement : Progressive Scan, Smart Picture, Video upsampling, Video upscaling, High Def (720p, 1080i, 1080p)

Sound
D/A converter : 24 bit, 192 kHz
Signal to noise ratio : 90
Distortion and Noise (1kHz) : 80 dB
Crosstalk (1kHz) : 80 dB
Dynamic Range (1kHz) : 80 dB
Sound System : Dolby Digital
Frequency response : 30-20000 Hz

Video Playback
Playback Media : CD, CD-R/CD-RW, Video CD/SVCD, DVD, DivX, DVD+R/+RW, DVD-R/-RW, DVD-Video
Compression formats : MPEG1, MPEG2, DivX 3.11, DivX 4.x, DivX 5.x, DivX 6.0, DivX Ultra
Video disc playback system : NTSC, PAL

Audio Playback
Playback Media : CD, MP3-CD, MP3-DVD, CD-R/RW, WMA-CD, Audio CD
Compression format : Dolby Digital, MP3, PCM, WMA
MP3 bit rates : 32 - 320 kbps

Still Picture Playback
Playback Media : DVD+R/+RW, DVD-R/-RW, CD-R/RW, Picture CD, Kodak Picture CD
Picture compression format : JPEG, TIFF
Picture enhancement : Flip photos, Rotate, Zoom, Slideshow with MP3 playback, High Definition Resolution

Multimedia Applications
Multimedia connections : USB memory class device
Playback Formats : DivX, MP3, JPEG Still pictures

Connectivity
Rear Connections : Analog audio Left/Right out, Composite video (CVBS) output, HDMI output, Digital coaxial out, ComponentVideo out Progressive

Convenience
Child Protection : Parental Control, Child Lock
On-Screen Display languages : English, Mexican Spanish, Canadian French

Accessories
Included Accessories : 2 x AAA Batteries, Audio/Video cable, Quick start guide, Remote Control, User Manual, Product Registration Card, Warranty Leaflet

Dimensions
Set Width : 435 mm
Set Height : 38 mm
Set Depth : 210 mm
Packaging Depth : 296 mm
Packaging Height : 82 mm
Packaging Width : 490 mm

Power
Power supply : 120V, 60Hz
Power consumption : < 10 W
Standby power consumption : < 0.8 W ieek.gif

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Post Posted: Mar 16, 2007 16:26 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
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Being able to eject the disc without turning on the player and waiting half a minute would be nice too.

Wouldnt that require a springloaded mechanical disc tray?

AFAIK all(?) devices that play back divx will playback xvid(home theatre profile) If you start putting in multiple warp points (startrek videos) or GMC( car shows) or qpel(???) then no home theatre device will play them, but computers (and xboxen ) should have no problem.
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jagabo
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Post Posted: Mar 16, 2007 19:15 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
RabidDog wrote:
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Being able to eject the disc without turning on the player and waiting half a minute would be nice too.

Wouldnt that require a springloaded mechanical disc tray?

I think he means being able to turn on and eject the disc by pressing the eject button. Most players I've used will switch on and eject the disc in about three seconds when you do this. But the 5960 requires that you press power button first, then wait 7 seconds before you can press the eject button. And then you have to wait another second or two for the disc to eject. Annoying.

gonwk
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Post Posted: Apr 05, 2007 00:10 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Hi folks,

I did not notice anyone to ask the Million $ Question ... question.gif

Will Philips DVP5982 Firmware FIX the ANNOYING problem of NOT being able to play AVI's with "Packed Bitstream" (PB)!?!?!?

Otherwise ... this unit will be as USELESS as their DVP5960/37.

G!

bobsolo
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Post Posted: Apr 13, 2007 12:59 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I'd hardly call the 5960 useless! It has played every avi and mpg file I've thrown at it, and I've had very few problems playing from my 250GB WD external HD (formatted out of the box).

FYI, I checked the Best Buy inventory system yesterday and they show an arrival date of May 6th for the 5982. My amazon order still shows April 19 - May 9. Can't wait to see if it is USB 2.0, though I'll be getting it regardless.

gonwk
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Post Posted: Apr 14, 2007 15:54 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
OK Bobsolo,

I am going to stop bad mouthing the 5960 ... but it does have annoying characteristics ... you have to admit it ... like it takes a while to eject the tray ... or load up.

As far as the 5982 ... I was reading on some other place and they said they could not find out from Philips own literature if the unti is "Truly" a USB 2.0!?!?! Or an advertising gimmick .. .since any USB 1.1 can read USB 2.0.

Anyway, looking forward to hearing from you when you get your 5982 and your vote on it.

Thanks,
G! smile.gif

jagabo
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Post Posted: Apr 14, 2007 19:14 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
gonwk wrote:
I am going to stop bad mouthing the 5960 ... but it does have annoying characteristics ... you have to admit it ... like it takes a while to eject the tray ... or load up.

Yes, it's not perfect. But I don't know anything in its price range that's better at playing MPEG4. I'm not sure the Oppo players, at two to three times the price, can do any better with Divx/Xvid.

robroth
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Post Posted: Apr 18, 2007 19:46 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Wonder if this will have Svideo out unlike the 5960. I'm not ready for the HD features but I'd like something that's more universal as far as video codecs than my 642.

bobsolo
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Post Posted: Apr 18, 2007 20:48 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
robroth wrote:
Wonder if this will have Svideo out unlike the 5960.


According to the user's guide it doesn't have S-video. Looks like you'll have to settle for the composite video connection.

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robroth
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Post Posted: Apr 18, 2007 22:11 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Thanks for checking, not what I was hoping for but at least now I know.

MythSpell
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Post Posted: Apr 23, 2007 07:13 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
There is a topic on the FatWallet deal forum about this player now being available in BestBuy B&M stores (not online yet). Here is a link.

There is also already a firmware update on the Philips site. The readme states...
This software version includes:
• Fix on TV display 16:9 & HDMI video setup issue
• Fix on Sleep timing accuracy
• DVD Playback improved

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