Are you going to buy Windows Vista?

edDV · Posted: Jan 29, 2007 19:22

All my XP installs pass the Verification but the evil MS seems to have no memory, so they ask again and again and again*. Casts doubt about their database readiness for a new OS.

* plus they send me dire warnings about consequences since I am on record as a business. I actually have more paid licenses than I am using or ever will use. Can't get no respect.

PS: IRS is worse about assuming guilt unless you prove innocense as a small businessman. Meanwhile credit card abuse never gets IRS focus. They assume they are tenth in line for payment.
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handyguy · Member Joined: 25 Mar 2003

Lots of stores are having Vista promotions today. Lots of free stuff if you buy it.

List of promos, hot deals forum at:
http://www.fatwallet.com/

mh2360 · Long Member Joined: 01 Aug 2001 Location: UK

I have a bad feeling about Vista, like one day you try to run DVDdecrypter or something and you get a message like "This software violates Microsofts license agreement", or something, am I being paranoid?

MackemX · Member Joined: 29 Nov 2002 Location: VIP Lounge

I'm in no rush and the more I read about it the less of a rush I'm in. Firstly I can't understand why it costs so much more in the UK in comparison to the US

. I saw that you can't buy it online from the US either. This is (and always has been) my main gripe with MS products. They need to offer lower prices (which will attract even more legitimate users) and better discount options as numerous households have more than one PC. I can't imagine how much it would cost my mate to update all of his 3 PC's and 3 laptops that his family have to Vista

I'm also not so keen on the DRM thing (don't know much about it but I know it's not such a good thing) or the control that you give MS when you agree to their licensing.

I've had mine since September 2002 and it's still as fast as it's always been. Most problems arise for people due to all the crap they install over time and the fact they don't regularly maintain their PC's. In fact most times I visit friends/family I give their PC a quick once over to get rid of the crap. I've lost count of the times I've been told the PC is 'real fast now' etc once I've spent a few minutes on it

Some people expect a computer to run perfectly 24/7 regardless of what they do to it and this is something people shouldn't think. It's so easy for people to complain that XP sucks etc but if you don't treat it right then don't be surprised if you get problems. Yeah you may get the odd issues but most can be resolved and given the fact that their are numerous combinations then it's not all bad.

Can you imagine if people did the same thing to their cars? (in fact forget that as some do and just run their cars into the ground!). You also get the Linux/Mac gang etc saying those OS's rule but again what would they be like if they had the same crap all round that XP faces? They may still be better in some respect but would it still be as attractive if you look at the extra price (in the case of Mac's) or the lack of software/hardware options etc?

Yeah Vista may be all pretty and stuff but if you look after XP then it's pretty good. You've also been able to get software to make XP look pretty anyway such as StyleXP, DesktopX etc for a long time now

I'm looking forward to all the calls I'll get when people want to upgrade or upgrade themselves and find out the 'true cost' regarding hardware upgrades/restrictions etc and also probably run into problems

Isn't this the last full blown OS from Microsoft as they will now just change for major updates/features etc?

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edDV · Posted: Jan 30, 2007 16:47

I think you will find most of the price difference is due to your value add tax and other taxes.

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edDV · Posted: Jan 30, 2007 17:08

They've probably added in all the EU legal costs.

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waheed · Unique Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Location: Manchester, UK

MackemX · Member Joined: 29 Nov 2002 Location: VIP Lounge

OEM Ultimate was £120 in my local PC shop which isn't bad. I just don't like the fact I can't go from 32 bit to 64 bit if I ever upgrade in a year or so to 64bit and I'd have to buy the 64 bit upgrade

anything to get some cash out of you

or can I install the 64bit onto the 32bit (yeah I know stupid question as you can't but I may be wrong)

although there is always the upgrade Vista via Vista trick I've heard about

http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1652098#1652098

so out of interest, if someone buys Vista either OEM, upgrades or retail and genuinely doesn't like it as there's too may bells and whistles they don't like then it's tough shit as they can't sell it on or go back to XP?

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rkgibbons · Posted: Feb 06, 2007 11:13

I've been using Vista Ultimate for a couple weeks now -- and I'll never go back to Windows XP.

Things I absolutely love:

1. You can use a USB storage device to instantly add system memory to your computer. For example, you can add a 1GB USB memory key to a 512MB laptop (or old PC), and the sysem performance will improve dramatically (depending, of course, on the speed of your USB memory device). This is great when you need a little extra juice for certain applications.

2. The new search functionality is AWESOME (and always available). I never really used search in Windows XP because it usually failed to find what I was looking for (and took a long time doing it). The new search is lightning fast and works!! I use it everyday.

3. "Live Icons", or whatever the heck it's called, is awesome too. You can see what's in a file or folder without opening it. You can't under-estimate how much time and frustration this will save you until you actually try it.

4. The Interface -- come on, you have to admit that us PC users have always been a bit jealous of the look-and-feel of the Mac OS. Well, no longer. Vista is pretty on the eyes and very responsive.

DOWNSIDE:

I've had a few driver issues with some of my peripherals...but I expect them to be resolved within a few months. Nothing along the lines of when I tried to 'upgrade' to Windows XP x64. What a fiasco that was.

I'm also not thrilled with the $300 bucks I had to shell out for the software. Even now, I feel a bit angry about it, although like I said at the top: I'll never go back to Windows XP.

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rkgibbons · Posted: Feb 06, 2007 14:41

That's $300 in Canadian money. Works out to be about $260 in United States dollars.

That's the price for the Vista Ultimate upgrade here in Canada (the full version is $500!!)

Is it worth it? You may not think so, but like I said, I would never go back to XP.

Some of the time-saving features of Windows Vista will save me countless hours (and countless mouse button clicks) over the next few years.

I'm an internet developer, so I'm always searching for bits of code, graphic elements, etc -- and the "live-icon' and search functionality built into Vista alone is worth a tremendous amount to me.

Using XP just feels clumsy and slow to me now.

That's not to say that I feel great about the $300. It still burns me a bit. But I wouldn't take the $300 back in exchange for going back to XP.

rkgibbons · Posted: Feb 06, 2007 14:44

...I have to admit that I'm also enjoying the fact that everyone who sees Vista running on my 24" wide-screen monitor literally drools on the floor.

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fritzi93 · Member Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Location: U.S.

Never. And never again a box with pre-installed crapware. My Newegg shipment should arrive today, and I'll be using Redwudz' guide to build my own. (Thanks Redwudz).

Win2K Pro will go on it to appease the wife.

Then I'm gunna see if I can master Kubuntu, when I get some spare time.
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rkgibbons · Posted: Feb 08, 2007 10:27

Wow, InXess, you gave it all of a few hours before giving a review of your experiences with Vista. Looks like you really took the time to get to know the software...cripes...

You can certainly manage your boot options, but just not in the exact same way as XP. Why would you expect a tool like bcdedit.exe to work in Vista when it was designed for XP? Vista is largely a new architecture, so most of the old system-level applications likely won't work.

Oh well, go back to XP. We'll see you back on Vista in a couple years when everyone is using it.

Man, this all reminds me of the first few days when XP launched, when everyone cried about how much worse it was than Windows 98 and Windows 2000, and everyone said they'd never upgrade.

It's the first few weeks of a brand new operating system. There's going to be a LEARNING CURVE.

If you're not an early-adopter type, well, wait awhile. But don't try the software for a few hours and then dismiss it by saying that it doesn't work.

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