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Advanced DVD menu creation in TMPGEnc DVD Author 2.0
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roma_turok
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Post Posted: Jan 05, 2007 14:50 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Advanced DVD menu creation in TMPGEnc DVD Author 2.0 to beginners. biggrin.gif

Creative DVD menu in Adobe Photoshop :
File-> New..


Select from photoshop Preset size of frame NTSC or PAL




Build menu as you like


Hide buttons in layers
In my case its 3 cake
save file as Main menu.psd photoshop file


File -> New..
select like in screenshot and most important set background to Transparent


drag and drop image of button to new file




Adjust size of image to size of button with Crop Tool
save image as name CakeButton.psd



Follow menu wizard of TMPGEnc DVD Author




Drag to bottom all titles
select all titles and select Memu item setting


Set Opacity to 0 to hide titles


Select Background and audio settings


Click on File browser and select Main menu.psd file





Select one of button and enter with right click to Menu item settings
Click on File browser and select CakeButton.psd file


Disable in Effects, Frame option and select OK


Repeat to 2 left buttons




optional:


Select Highlight of buttons from Global DVD menu settings


Preview DVD:



Other option:


If Highlight of buttons have shape of square, you don't have save buttons separate.
Like this for example:


Load to the background photophop file with buttons


Select all 3 buttons and select Menu item settings



Disable Keep aspect ratio and all effects in Effects tab




Make shape and position correct to the image


Select again all 3 buttons and select Menu item settings


Set effect Opacty to 0, in Effects tab


done


Preview DVD:


Last edited by roma_turok on Jan 06, 2007 16:54, edited 4 times in total
oldfart13
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Post Posted: Jan 05, 2007 15:28 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Any way of doing this on a tighter budget? After blowing $90USD on DVD Author 2.0 you would have to blow another $100USD on Photoshop Elements 5.0 all to produce what is still a rather static, simplistic menu. How about a guide to producing some animated menus or syncing audio to an animated menu? Friends of mine have done this quite effectively with Author 2.0, so I'll get them to give me a run through on how it's done....

roma_turok
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2007 08:28 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
First you have 60 days trials to use: Photoshop Elements 5.0 30days + Photoshop CS2 30days
Second you have freeware alternative to Photoshop,
GIMP 2 can save,open and edit Photoshop file, not best like Photoshop but its freeware.
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html


peterhun
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2007 16:48 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Quote:
If the Highlight of buttons shape of square, you don't have save buttons separate.
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This is a great guide, thanks. I don't understand the second option, something was lost in the translation

roma_turok
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Post Posted: Jan 06, 2007 17:03 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
If Highlight have shape of square.
Highlight indicate that button selected on menu
Highlight its orange thing on this image:


TimA-C
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Post Posted: Jan 08, 2007 18:23 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Good guide, thanks. I've played a little with photoshop and buttons, but this looks to be more useful than the info I used. Hopefully will find the time to play with this soon.

Gildas
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Post Posted: Jan 09, 2007 22:25 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Excellent, roma_turok! Thank you so much for spending the time to explain all this. I love it! smile.gif

As TimA-C said, I will have to find the time to experiment with this too. wink.gif

One question: in the first example with the 3 cakes as buttons, is there a way to hide the cakes when they are not highlighted?

roma_turok
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Post Posted: Jan 10, 2007 00:18 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Rules/specifications of DVD not allow to hide button when its not highlighted.

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Post Posted: Jan 10, 2007 03:27 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
If by button you mean the sub-picture highlight then the spec does allow for buttons to be hidden at any time. However if you mean background graphics then it becomes more complicated than can easily be done in TDA
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Gildas
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Post Posted: Jan 10, 2007 08:25 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
What I meant was that only one cake is visible at one time in front of the title/chapter that you select. So I guess that would be a sub-picture? I am not familiar with the technical terms but I don't think it's a background graphic.

I would think it should be allowed in the specs because I have seen it in commercial DVDs where a symbol or object is used as a pointer to show you what chapter is selected.

Is this explanation clearer? confused.gif

Thanks.

roma_turok
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Post Posted: Jan 10, 2007 11:56 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
You explanation cleared in fist post on this topic.
I understand you like on this image simulation:


But features or technology of DVD not allow to do this.
I only guess what you see commercial DVDs,
its illusion where a symbol or object is used as a pointer
actually you jumping from menu to menu, when you moving the symbol.

Its possible to build menu like you wanted,
but if you have for example 5 buttons in 1 menu, you need to build 5 different menus.
Its became a mess, I not recommended
Only will be done with Adobe Encore DVD,DVD-lab or other they have more control on menu.
Please read this post: http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=256913
Please read this guide to make menu as you asking: http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/tutorial/switchmenu.html

Gildas
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Post Posted: Jan 10, 2007 12:04 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Yes, roma_turok, this is exactly what I had in mind. Thanks for posting the animation to show what I meant! smile.gif

Ok, so I understand that it's more involved than what is explained in your guide. I will take a look at the links you posted.

Thank you for your help! smile.gif

roma_turok
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Post Posted: Jan 10, 2007 12:29 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Or you can set in buttons Opacty to 0
with only highlights left, this can help? biggrin.gif


Pinstripes23
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Post Posted: Jan 10, 2007 12:41 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
roma_turok wrote:


But features or technology of DVD not allow to do this.
I only guess what you see commercial DVDs,
its illusion where a symbol or object is used as a pointer
actually you jumping from menu to menu, when you moving the symbol.

Its possible to build menu like you wanted,
but if you have for example 5 buttons in 1 menu, you need to build 5 different menus.
Its became a mess, I not recommended
Only will be done with Adobe Encore DVD,DVD-lab or other they have more control on menu.
Please read this post: http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=256913
Please read this guide to make menu as you asking: http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/tutorial/switchmenu.html


What do you mean the DVD technology doesn't allow this? I create DVD's all the time using those "jumping" buttons...in DVDLAB Pro. It's just one menu and the subpicture is set up in a way where the buttons are "invisible" in normal mode. Only when you use your remote or hover your mouse over the button/hotspot does the button highlight. That last link to mediachance is not for that type of menu though.

roma_turok
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Post Posted: Jan 10, 2007 13:46 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Pinstripes23 wrote:

What do you mean the DVD technology doesn't allow this? I create DVD's all the time using those "jumping" buttons...in DVDLAB Pro. It's just one menu and the subpicture is set up in a way where the buttons are "invisible" in normal mode. Only when you use your remote or hover your mouse over the button/hotspot does the button highlight. That last link to mediachance is not for that type of menu though.


Please read post careful before you post and try understand
I not talking about hiding buttons in menu.
I talking about moving button with full 256 color button, not 1 color highlights

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Gildas
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Post Posted: Jan 10, 2007 22:53 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
roma_turok wrote:
Or you can set in buttons Opacty to 0
with only highlights left, this can help? biggrin.gif


Yes, that's good enough for me. I will just create the shape of an arrow or a pointy object instead of a cake and that will do it for me. Thank you for your suggestions! smile.gif

schematic2
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Post Posted: Jan 13, 2007 00:41 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Hi
Has anyone tried this in Tsunami Pro 2? I can't get rid of the black box around my cake!

Thanks

roma_turok
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Post Posted: Jan 13, 2007 02:39 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Try disable Frame option like I write in the guide

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schematic2
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Post Posted: Jan 13, 2007 15:49 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Hi Roma

Still no luck. Tsunami doesn't like transparency

roma_turok
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Post Posted: Jan 14, 2007 00:11 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
You have option to upload file on replay post, on the bottom
Please ZIP the button file, and upload zip file
I take look on the file.

schematic2
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Post Posted: Jan 14, 2007 12:37 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Thanks roma_turok
I appreciate you helping out

button.psd

roma_turok
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Post Posted: Jan 14, 2007 13:30 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Convert image to RGB color and save file different name.


schematic2
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HI
I converted as you asked. Still the same. Does my file work for you in DVD author?


Thanks

button_2.psd

schematic2
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Post Posted: Jan 14, 2007 15:15 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
roma_turok

Can you post your cake button so I can see if it shows transparency in my program?


Thanks

roma_turok
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Post Posted: Jan 14, 2007 15:33 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
You use Photoshop CS2?


button_2edit.psd

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schematic2
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Post Posted: Jan 14, 2007 15:35 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I'm using corel draw and exporting psd. I also tried Gimp. Same thing.

roma_turok
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schematic2
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This is what yours looks like.........same as mine........I must step out for 1 hour. Thanks



roma_turok
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Post Posted: Jan 14, 2007 16:25 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Just check if you download right file button_2edit.psd, saved with Photoshop CS2.
I tested file on Tsunami and its OK
I only can confirm, the file saved in GIMP not go transparency.


schematic2
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Post Posted: Jan 14, 2007 16:39 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Thanks so much roma_turok. You have proven its my corel draw thats incompatable. Your edited file works fine. I'll have to try other drawing packages.

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