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kwebster
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Post Posted: Dec 30, 2006 19:29 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

MicroCenter is pushing WinData DVD+R DL's for a bone ($1) apiece (10 for $10). Anyone had any experience with these things yet? Since they were only 10 bones, I went ahead and picked up a pack, but I'll tell you: I ain't expectin' much. I've never bothered to even look twice at their SL WinData offerings because I'm still smarting from that garbage they used to sell 3 or 4 years ago (what was the name of those disks? The SL ones that you could only buy at MicroCenter??). Anyway, I'm testing one now (one of the DL's) and will report my findings.

sc4300
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Post Posted: Jan 09, 2007 18:16 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

These DL disc by WinData is garbage.
Just bought them a week ago at Micro Center. 10 disc for $9.99

4 of them didn't work at all and I thought my DVD burner was broken.
I continued to use the rest of the 6. They works GREAT on 1st layer till the second layer was burned. I now have 10 coasters sitting on my desk.

Bought Verbatim DL disc yesterday and they work perfectly, so there is nothing wrong with my Sony DVD burner.


kwebster
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Post Posted: Jan 10, 2007 10:14 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Yeah, I agree. But I'm not at all surprised. Like I said, MicroCenter doesn't exactly have a stellar record with their own DVD media. I burned one of these discs and although the burning went flawlessly, the finished product was unwatchable from the very beginning. I knew this would be the case so I wasn't bent over spending the 10 bucks. Long live Verbatim!!

BTW, has anyone used the Fuji DL's?


zrdb
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Post Posted: Jan 10, 2007 20:43 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

You know the old saying "You get what you pay for"-I got a 10 pack of these worthless coasters-only 2 out of 10 were successful burns-the rest went into the trash can-better to have spent 6 more bucks and gotten a 10 pack of Ridatas-never had any problems with those.

RKelly
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Post Posted: Jan 10, 2007 21:08 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

WinData used to be called Platinum Series.

zrdb
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Post Posted: Jan 11, 2007 09:00 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

They can call them any name they want-they're still garbage.

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Post Posted: Jan 11, 2007 10:16 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Verbatim +R DL are fairly good. They're more expensive ($2.40/ea.) but you won't have many coasters wink.gif
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zrdb
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Post Posted: Jan 11, 2007 12:31 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I know-all that I ever use are Verbatims and Ridatas-aka Memorex-never had 1 coaster from these brands. I get my Verbatims for about $1.50 each-you're paying too much.

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Post Posted: Jan 11, 2007 16:33 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

kwebster wrote:
BTW, has anyone used the Fuji DL's?


I used them few awhile a year ago. They code as Ritek D01. No problems burning or playing, though I haven't tested them in awhile. I burned on an NEC ND-3550a, FW 1.05. I still prefer Verbatims though.


zrdb
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Post Posted: Jan 11, 2007 19:25 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

It's really funny how everyone says that they have problems with Ritek/Ridata-the very first dvd+dl media I ever burned were Memorex that were Ridatas and never one problem from any of the 50 or so I've burned since then.

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Post Posted: Jan 12, 2007 14:08 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Ditto on the Verbatim DL's. So far about 50 burns and 1 coaster (my fault)

zrdb
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Post Posted: Feb 17, 2007 22:35 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Interesting thing-the 1st 10 spindle pack of these things that I got were rated at 2.4X burn speed and they were all garbage-but I decided to give them one more try so I got another spindle of 10 rated at 8X burn speed and all 10 of them burned perfectly-they are identified as Ricoh media-same as the the 1st spindle rated at 2.4X-go figure?

dmagic1
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Post Posted: Feb 20, 2007 16:19 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Ok, if we're going to blast the disc, lets at least name the make.
What are the 2.4x and 8x makes?

Is there any indication on the package which are the 2.4 or 8x? UPC? Dates? Place Made?


zrdb
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Post Posted: Feb 20, 2007 17:13 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Did you read the whole post-I said they were idenfitied as Ricoh media?

dmagic1
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Post Posted: Feb 23, 2007 18:59 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Ok I went and picked up two packs of the ones marked up to 8x.

I ended up with two different media IDs.

RICOHJPN D01-002 --- Lot # 021206
RICOHJPN D01-067 --- Lot # 231206

The 002 I can't get to start or if they do start they never finish with out errors in two different burners. So far 4 coaster.

The 067 are a little better but not much. They finish but unreadable.


zrdb
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Post Posted: Feb 25, 2007 17:24 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Like I said before-the first 10 pack yielded 2 successful burns and 8 coasters, the second 10 has given me 5 out of 5 so far-one thing that I've found is that NEC burners don't seem to have much if any trouble with these discs-all of the bad burns were done on my Samsung burner-I have a NEC sourced Maddog burner-no problemo.

Krispy Kritter
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Post Posted: Mar 09, 2007 10:27 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I've had good luck with Playo 2.4x DL media (1 coaster out of 10), but that doesn't mean I endorse or recommend them. If only 20% of the first spindle actually worked...I'm not rushing out to try them hoping I get a good spindle.
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zrdb
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Post Posted: Mar 09, 2007 11:50 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

I think that we're all trying to find good cheap dvd+dl media-I"m on my 2nd 10 of these 8X Windata discs and still not one bad burn yet out of the 15 that I've used-is it good karma or what?

SCDVD
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Post Posted: Mar 09, 2007 12:04 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

zrdb wrote:
It's really funny how everyone says that they have problems with Ritek/Ridata-the very first dvd+dl media I ever burned were Memorex that were Ridatas and never one problem from any of the 50 or so I've burned since then.


The biggest problem with Ritek is their variable quality. They are capable of making good media but they let the flaky stuff slide through. Careful QC costs money and disposing of bad or marginal media costs money too. I believe that is money that Ritek is reluctant to spend / throw away. The result is that one batch of media may be good and the next one bad. Verbatim is obviously more in tune with the importance of shipping consistently dependable media.

I have heard that Ritek's DVD media doesn't have a stable dye formulation and that it tends to break down over time resulting in burns that seem OK this year but won't play next year because of dye deterioration.


zrdb
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Post Posted: Mar 09, 2007 13:10 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Aii that I can tell you is that the very first dl dvds that I burned 2 years ago were Memorex/Riteks and they still work perfectly and I've never had a bad burn with one yet.

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Post Posted: Mar 10, 2007 03:30 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

A look into the media database will easily reveal that only Verbatim DL is good media.
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Birck
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Post Posted: Jun 25, 2008 14:24 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

It is many moons later (June of '0cool.gif, and Windata disks are still garbage. I bought them at MicroCenter months ago and had problems from the first attempt. Considering that the number of brick-and-mortar computer stores is decreasing, it seems counterintuitive for Micro Center to continue to sell these worthless coasters as DL disks. There are more DLs on the market now than a year ago; Sony and TDK now sell them, although 9 months ago that was not the case, at least not in the western hemisphere. Granted that the DL format seems to be trickier than less compressed formats, it's time for those producers who can't rise to the occasion to drop out or be pushed.
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pepegot1
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Post Posted: Jun 25, 2008 14:33 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote

Fuji DLs are good. I had no problems with a cake of twenty that I bought awhile ago. I mostly use Verbatim though.

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