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manono
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Post Posted: Feb 20, 2008 07:12 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Hi-
bountylord wrote:
isn't there any other way to add subs cause when i press ctrl f8 nothing happens

Did you load the AVI first? Are you using a reasonably recent version of AutoGK?

Drowbert
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Post Posted: Feb 21, 2008 08:06 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
maybe i am a newbie but i dont get what's wrong but i have no sound. i get a file that is 0 kb big
[2008-02-21 14:29:43] Format: AVI
[2008-02-21 14:29:43] Target size: 1400Mb
[2008-02-21 14:29:43] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[2008-02-21 14:29:43] Started encoding.
[2008-02-21 14:29:43] Source resolution: 640x352
[2008-02-21 14:29:43] Source fps: 23,976
[2008-02-21 14:29:43] Output will contain 167697 frames
[2008-02-21 14:29:43] Demuxing audio.
[2008-02-21 14:30:22] Preparing subtitles.
[2008-02-21 14:30:22] Audio1 size: 111,701,760 bytes (106.53 Mb)
[2008-02-21 14:30:22] Overhead: 1,991,424 bytes (1.90 Mb)
[2008-02-21 14:30:22] Video size: 1,354,313,216 bytes (1291.57 Mb)
[2008-02-21 14:30:22] Running compressibility test.
[2008-02-21 14:32:30] Duration was: 2 minutes 8 seconds
[2008-02-21 14:32:30] Speed was: 65,24 fps.
[2008-02-21 14:32:30] Compressibility percentage is: 163,65
[2008-02-21 14:32:30] Switching b-frames off
[2008-02-21 14:32:30] Chosen resolution is: 640x352 ( AR: 1,82 )
[2008-02-21 14:32:30] Predicted comptest value is: 122,41%
[2008-02-21 14:32:30] Running first pass.
[2008-02-21 14:58:40] Duration was: 26 minutes 9 seconds
[2008-02-21 14:58:40] Speed was: 106,85 fps.
[2008-02-21 14:58:41] Expected quality of first pass size: 121,31%
[2008-02-21 14:58:41] Trying to adjust settings.
[2008-02-21 14:58:41] No adjustment is possible
[2008-02-21 14:58:41] Warning: final AVI will likely be undersized.
[2008-02-21 14:58:42] Running second pass.
[2008-02-21 14:59:34] Duration was: 49 seconds
[2008-02-21 14:59:34] Speed was: 3380,31 fps.
[2008-02-21 14:59:34] Error splitting file
[2008-02-21 14:59:34] Job finished. Total time: 29 minutes 50 seconds
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gala8x
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Post Posted: Feb 23, 2008 19:24 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
If i have files .smi and files .wmv. How to add them?

manono
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Post Posted: Feb 23, 2008 21:22 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
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How to add them?

You don't.

kevin182h
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Post Posted: Feb 25, 2008 19:08 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
AutoGK doesn't recognize the vbr audio of the tv shows i download...

is there any way to set it not to use VirtualDubMod?

WinAVI works with them ('.avi' files with vbr audio) perfectly

mardoka
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Post Posted: Feb 26, 2008 08:43 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I have problem that the voices and the subs don't match at the same time.

I have subtitles in SUB format and XVID video file.

Before encoding everything is OK, voice and subtitles are synchronized.

When I finish encoding :
Subs are ok on the start of the movie.
In the middle subs are 25s before voice.
At the end subs are 50s before voice.

Could you help me? Thanks.

manono
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Post Posted: Feb 26, 2008 08:55 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
kevin182h wrote:
is there any way to set it not to use VirtualDubMod?

No.

What's wrong with the output? No audio at all? Out of synch audio? And if out of synch, is it off by the same amount all the way through, or does it get worse as the movie goes along? And are you having the audio be reencoded? Or keeping the original audio? You might check the original AVI and the AutoGK output AVI to see if there's anything different, like sample rates or bitrates, between the audios of the 2 AVIs.

kevin182h
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Post Posted: Feb 26, 2008 16:37 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
manono wrote:
kevin182h wrote:
is there any way to set it not to use VirtualDubMod?

No.

What's wrong with the output? No audio at all? Out of synch audio? And if out of synch, is it off by the same amount all the way through, or does it get worse as the movie goes along? And are you having the audio be reencoded? Or keeping the original audio? You might check the original AVI and the AutoGK output AVI to see if there's anything different, like sample rates or bitrates, between the audios of the 2 AVIs.


it gets outta sync as the movie goes along... which i think it's cos of the VBR thing

between the input and output files, i set AutoGK not to change anything at all! same simple rates, bitrates, size...

manono
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Post Posted: Feb 26, 2008 23:25 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Did you check the before AVI against the after AVI to confirm that the audio is the same? Because it makes no sense that if it's the same audio at the same length as the source, that it would get out of synch. Me, I'd be much more likely to suspect your source AVI as the culprit. Maybe it's some low sample rate or low bitrate audio that AutoGK doesn't support, and it gets reencoded. Does the same thing happen with all the AVIs that you reencode?

I'll just say that plenty of people reencode their AVIs with VBR MP3 audio in them, maybe to make them smaller, or maybe to add in subtitles, and they have no problems at all.

kevin182h
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Post Posted: Feb 27, 2008 18:28 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
well, i've tried with some tv shows (around 5 files) and it looks like they're all the same (vbr audio)

i'll get some screen shots

poisondeathray
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Post Posted: Feb 27, 2008 18:34 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
kevin182h - you could change VBR=>CBR if you still want to use autogk for subs (if you are sure VBR is the culprit, not some other reason). There are many guides & topics on how to do this

Good luck

Matsuemon
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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2008 01:56 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I used this procedure today with AGK, and it worked perfectly, except it will only play on my computer, not on the two stand-alone players I've tried it on. I've heard this is pretty much an issue with external subs being put in seperately. Is there any way around this problem? Seems like it wouldn't be that difficult to fix.

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manono
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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2008 05:00 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Hi-
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I've heard this is pretty much an issue with external subs being put in seperately.

You heard wrong. Since this guide is about burning or embedding subs into the video, that would have nothing to do with why your standalone players won't play your AVI. A much more likely reason why the AVI won't play in your standalones would be you not installing AutoGK using the ESS chipset option.

Matsuemon
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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2008 17:33 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
manono wrote:
Hi-
You heard wrong. Since this guide is about burning or embedding subs into the video, that would have nothing to do with why your standalone players won't play your AVI. A much more likely reason why the AVI won't play in your standalones would be you not installing AutoGK using the ESS chipset option.


In Auto GK, when you click on the "use external subtitles" tab, a popup window comes up which says, "external subtitles will not work on standalone players. Are you sure you want to enable them?" Why would it say that if it wasn't true? But, let me be clear on what I'm trying to do. I want to add subtitles which I've created. I didn't rip them from a DVD. I want them embedded right into the video. I reinstalled and selected the ESS chipset option and I will try again. Thanks for the info

manono
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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2008 20:12 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
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In Auto GK, when you click on the "use external subtitles" tab, a popup window comes up which says, "external subtitles will not work on standalone players. Are you sure you want to enable them?

Yes, but that's a different issue and, again, nothing to do with this guide. One of the reasons people might want to permanently burn the subs into the video is because their player won't show external subtitles. The AVI should play anyway, though (unless created using some settings the player doesn't like, as can be true for the default non-ESS chipset compatible AutoGK settings). I expect that message is left over from the early days of DVD/MPEG-4 players when they didn't have much support for external subtitles. Nowadays, as far as I know, they all support at least the most common subtitle formats (SRT, anyway). Good luck with your reencode.

Matsuemon
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Post Posted: Mar 12, 2008 21:21 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
"Yes, but that's a different issue and, again, nothing to do with this guide."

I'm sorry but it has everything to do with this guide. Why do you keep saying it doesn't? Even when you click the Cntrl F8 to bring up the subtitle field, it still says "EXTERNAL subtitles". So my questions are relevant. I do appreciate your help, but I'm not sure why you're being difficult when there is no need.

manono
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Post Posted: Mar 13, 2008 04:21 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Weren't you getting that message when choosing to keep the subs external in the Advanced Options? You did say that you had checked the "use external subtitles" box, and that box is found only in the Advanced Options. And has nothing to do with this guide.

The box in the Advanced Options refers to extracting subtitles from a DVD in IDX/SUB format and keeping them separate and external (not burning them into the video) to the AVI for playing along with the AVI on the computer or in a standalone that can display separate and external subs. The reason you got that message about them not playing in a standalone is because when AutoGK was created it was in the early days of standalone DVD/MPEG-4 players, and most had no subtitle support. That has changed now, and maybe the message should be removed. But maybe not. There are still plenty of standalones that won't play the IDX/SUB format subs, and maybe none that will play them in the compressed RAR form that AutoGK will give you.

The external subs referenced when you hit CTRL-F8 are separate subtitle files in a variety of formats (IDX/SUB, SSA, SRT, etc.) that you intend to burn or embed into the video. They may have been downloaded from somewhere, or created yourself, but they usually aren't from the DVD (because AutoGK can extract those). Two different things.

Matsuemon
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Post Posted: Mar 13, 2008 12:19 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
manono wrote:
Weren't you getting that message when choosing to keep the subs external in the Advanced Options? You did say that you had checked the "use external subtitles" box, and that box is found only in the Advanced Options. And has nothing to do with this guide..


Manono, since I was adding subtitles that I had created, using the F8 command was the ONLY way to add subtitles to my dvd, in which case it was completely relevant to this guide. And my follow up comment was a very logical follow up question to make sure I was doing the procedure correctly, and that that wasn't the reason it wasn't playing correctly on a standalone player.
You are not a moderator of this site, is that correct? Also this isn't your thread. If you don't like the way the threads are going you certainly don't have to read or respond to them. You seem to need to control them, which is becoming annoying fast. Just chill out. We are all in this to help each other, but we don't need someone to keep jumping on us every time we seemingly fall slightly off topic.

Matsuemon
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Post Posted: Mar 13, 2008 17:16 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
[quote="manono"]I successfully added subtitles but they are too small to read. Is it possible to add bigger subtitles?

Yes, convert the subs to SSA format (I use SubResynch that comes with VobSub). Then in the header, raise the boldfaced number to whatever you like:
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Format: Name, Fontname, Fontsize, PrimaryColour, SecondaryColour, TertiaryColour, BackColour, Bold, Italic, BorderStyle, Outline, Shadow, Alignment, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, AlphaLevel, Encoding
Style: Default,Tahoma,70,11468799,65535,65535,-2147483640,0,0,1,2,0,2,30,30,25,0,0


What header are you talking about? I'm trying to change my font size but I'm not sure how to do what you're explaining. I tried going into "options" in SubResynch and changing the font size from there, but that didn't work.

manono
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...in which case it was completely relevant to this guide.

Just go back and reread your second post in this thread and then tell me how the "use external subtitles" tab and the message it gives when checking the box is at all relevant. It seemed to me at the time (and it still does) that you were confused by the use of the term "external subtitles" as used in the Advanced Options and in the CTRL-F8 trick, since one keeps the subs external and the other uses external subs as a source to embed into the video.
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You are not a moderator of this site, is that correct?

That's correct. However, I am a moderator at the (Auto) Gordian Knot Forum at Doom9, wrote about 90% of the included tutorial, also found online here:

http://www.autogk.me.uk/modules.php?name=TutorialEN

advised the developer (len0x) during the early days of AutoGK, and do know a little something about the program. Since you've had enough time to run a couple of dozen reencodes of the video that was giving you a problem, would you like to tell me if your new AVI plays OK in your standalones now, or would you rather go back and forth on this one issue for another few days?

As for your SSA subtitle, just open the SSA in Notepad , find that stuff at the top that I showed, and change the number immediately after the font name. I apologize, as that post of mine you quoted wasn't at all clear as to exactly how to make that change.

Matsuemon
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Post Posted: Mar 13, 2008 21:26 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
It was relevant to me, at the time, that's ALL that matters. Seriously, take a chill pill and just tell people what they ask for and don't tell us how relevant or irrelevant the post is. The only person it seems to be bothering is you. I do appreciate your knowledge, but that doesn't give you the right to moderate the forums, so keep your opinions of relevancy to yourself.

Now my subtitled DVD's do seem to be running correctly on my standalone, with the exception of the subtitles being too small. SORRY, that was irrelavant to this post, so I should probably start a whole new one just to tell you that.

But I don't see why changing the font size, as you said in notepad, will do anything different than editing it in VobSub, which didn't work. In fact, when I opened the document in notepad it had the same sized font I had increased it to before, but it didn't show up correctly on the finished video. At any rate, I'm trying it now.

Update: It didn't work. Not only are the subtitles not resized, they are not even showing up at all.

crossmr
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Post Posted: Apr 01, 2008 15:20 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
How can I choose the subtitle language? It seems no matter which options I check the subtitle channel box always comes up blank and if it just randomly grabs another language it doesn't much help me..

Also what can I do about autogk throwing audio out of sync? I do a 2 part movie and the second part is fine, and the first part is a second or so off. Its happened twice now.

kool437
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Post Posted: Apr 06, 2008 10:11 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Hi manono

i just started using Agk, the program works fine for me, but its taking few hours to just add a srt subtitle to a 700mb avi file. i dont want to change anything in the avi file, i purely just want to add the subtitle, is there anyway i can speed up the process using Agk, or is there any other program that i can use? i read all the previous post, you mention about twopass, can you explain bit more about that, that change the processing time? can you tell me what is the difference b/w "single pass", "twopass - 1st pass", "twopass - 2nd pass" and "twopass - 2nd pass alt".

Thanks

manono
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Post Posted: Apr 06, 2008 10:46 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Hi,

Adding in a subtitle isn't quite as easy as it might sound as the entire AVI has to be reencoded. In addition, no offense intended, your computer is getting a little long in the tooth. The best way to speed it up is to go from the default 2-pass method where you specify a final file size (1 CD/700 MB, for example), to a 1-pass encode choosing the Target Quality by percentage. The default 75% is a decent choice, but you won't get a specific size. If you need a certain size (like 1 CD), then you'll have to stick with the default settings. This is all thoroughly explained in the included tutorial, also found online here:

http://www.autogk.me.uk/modules.php?name=TutorialEN

Are there other programs you can use? Sure, several, although I'm not familiar with most of them, how easy they are to use, how easy it is to use them to add in the subs, if it's possible to add in external subtitles to an AVI source, or if they'll be any faster than AutoGK (although I kind of doubt it). FairUse Wizard, avi.NET, StaxRip, VirtualDub(Mod), among others.

crossmr
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Post Posted: Apr 06, 2008 10:48 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Manono, can I get some help on autogk throwing the audio out of sync and choosing subtitle languages? Its really hampering the use of this software (2 posts up)

manono
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Post Posted: Apr 06, 2008 23:20 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I'll try, but no guarantees. Although many people have the out-of-synch audio problem (usually, but not always, their own fault), very few have trouble choosing the correct subs.

First and most importantly, you have to decrypt correctly. Above all this means not putting the entire DVD onto the hard drive and then loading VOBs or the IFO into