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tin2tin
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Here an example ssa file:
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[Script Info]
ScriptType: v4.00+
Collisions: Normal
PlayResX: 384
PlayResY: 288
Timer: 100.0000
[V4+ Styles]
Format: Name, Fontname, Fontsize, PrimaryColour, SecondaryColour, OutlineColour, BackColour, Bold, Italic, Underline, StrikeOut, ScaleX, ScaleY, Spacing, Angle, BorderStyle, Outline, Shadow, Alignment, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Encoding
Style: Default,Times New Roman,20,&H00FFFFFF,&H0000FFFF,&H00000000,&H00000000,0,0,0,0,100,100,0,0.00,1,2,0,2,20,20,20,1
[Events]
Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Actor, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text
Dialogue: 0,00:00:00.00,00:00:04.00,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,First subtitle
Dialogue: 0,00:00:05.01,00:00:09.01,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Second subtitle
Dialogue: 0,00:00:10.01,00:00:14.01,Default,NTP,0000,0000,0000,!Effect,Third subtitle |
Some bugs?
If a submenu(with muxman) with a still background has loop and pause = 0 this error will come up:
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| PGC "TS1SubMenu4" Post command, line 1: Jump/Link/Call target "TS1SubMenu4_cell1" not found |
If a submenu(with muxman) with a still background links(action: LinkPGCN TS1SubMenu4) to a menu with pause=inf then the dvd is stopped.
Maybe these problems happens with more than +3 submenus ?
The most difficult part for me is to guess(trial/error) what actions lead to what menus.
By using the screenshot function it's very easy to make transitions as 'animated menus' between menus with DVDsGUI.
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borax
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@lennu,
I got the files and had a first look...
I'm very happy, that you have tested such a project!
Because my 'predefined' button actions for MuxMan are not really good...
If you just set a system register:
SetSTN audio=1
without any 'action' (link...) the button turns to 'activated' and the menu 'hangs', as the player doesn't know what to do...
=>For buttons the SetSTN command needs to be combined with any kind of link. This could be a link to the TitleSet1Menu:
LinkPGCN TitleSet1Menu
or a simple 'reload menu' command
LinkPGCN TS1SubMenu1
(in this case the first button is highlighted again)
or a special 'reload menu' command which can automatically highlight the back button (example for your project!):
LinkPGN TS1SubMenu1_pg1, button=6
In the next version, I will update the 'predefined' button actions for MuxMan including the necessary link commands.
@Tin2tin
Same as with lennu:
Could you send me the saved project (or attach it as zip)? It's hard to guess what's wrong from outside...
EDIT:
Maybe I have the answer for this error already:
PGC "TS1SubMenu4" Post command, line 1: Jump/Link/Call target "TS1SubMenu4_cell1" not found
Is your TS1SubMenu4 menu 'empty' (no buttons except the back button)?
In this case the menu is not fully created. This error will be fixed in the next version. To check if that's the problem, just add a button to this menu, give it some action and hide the button.
Concerning the ssa format:
Style: Default, Times New Roman
There is already the first problem... For spumux I need the font file name (.ttf), and I don't know any windows function to get the font file name for a given font name and style.
For the colors: &H00FFFFFF,&H0000FFFF,&H00000000,&H00000000
Which one is what? Background, outline...
And given the value: &H00FFFFFF is this ARGB or RGBA or ABGR...?
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Last edited by borax on Feb 12, 2007 07:05, edited 1 time in total
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tin2tin
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About the ssa format then the format line describes the values of the following line. so PrimaryColour, SecondaryColour, OutlineColour, BackColour = ,&H00FFFFFF,&H0000FFFF,&H00000000,&H00000000,
I don't know too much about this format, just made DVDsGUI copy a header of this format.
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Maybe I have the answer for this error already:
PGC "TS1SubMenu4" Post command, line 1: Jump/Link/Call target "TS1SubMenu4_cell1" not found
Is your TS1SubMenu4 menu 'empty' (no buttons except the back button)?
In this case the menu is not fully created. This error will be fixed in the next version. To check if that's the problem, just add a button to this menu, give it some action (the same as the one in the post command) and hide the button.
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That's fixing that problem.
Another small ting: When adding a new menu the pause info in the pop-up window isn't added to the new menu.
After adding one video to the main menu, and then adding a button I somehow I can't get this button to acces the TitleSet1Menu - what's the correct action?
EDIT: I just found out that the JumpSS vts_1, vts_ttn_1 : RootMenu - action will link to film1 (and not acces titleset1menu) if the TitleSet1Menu doesn't have anything else than the back button.
Tin2tin
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borax
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| EDIT: I just found out that the JumpSS vts_1, vts_ttn_1 : RootMenu - action will link to film1 (and not acces titleset1menu) if the TitleSet1Menu doesn't have anything else than the back button. |
Yes, but here it is 'intended'. Many people just activate 'use titlesets' but do nothing with the titlesetmenus. In this case GfD doesn't create them (and replaces the button action from 'JumpSS vts_1, vts_ttn_1 : RootMenu' to 'JumpTT TitleSet1_Title1'). I think you use the titleset menu as a 'transition' to something else (other menu/title), but this is of cause not the 'standard' for titleset menus.
=> For Titleset menus I will not change the default which means 'Do not create an empty menu', but I will change the criteria for 'empty': A menu is 'empty' if no buttons except the back button exist AND no post command is defined.
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... PrimaryColour, SecondaryColour, OutlineColour, BackColour = ,&H00FFFFFF,&H0000FFFF,&H00000000,&H00000000,
I don't know too much about this format, just made DVDsGUI copy a header of this format.
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So what would you expect from GfD???
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AlanHK
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| borax wrote: |
Concerning the ssa format:
Style: Default, Times New Roman
There is already the first problem... For spumux I need the font file name (.ttf), and I don't know any windows function to get the font file name for a given font name and style.
For the colors: &H00FFFFFF,&H0000FFFF,&H00000000,&H00000000
Which one is what? Background, outline...
And given the value: &H00FFFFFF is this ARGB or RGBA or ABGR...? |
It would be cool if you could have richer subtitle formatting. But I think the effort should go elsewhere. It would be a huge amount of work to support the full SSA formatting.
I use plain text SRTs as input for GfD, but for anything more complex than single font, single colour, I make bitmap SUP files with a subtitle editor.
If you find a plugin substitute for spumax that does it, though, that would be great.
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borax
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Yes Alan, that's also my opinion. As long as spumux is limited to single font + single colour, it doesn't make much sense to use informations from something like ssa, which has much more formatting possibilities as spumux is capable to support. If someone with enough C knowledge extends spumux to support the ssa formatting possibilities, there is no need to 'infer' this info from GfD, as spumux could read it from the ssa file itself as well.
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borax
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tin2tin
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Is there a way to make a new TitleSetMenu without adding a videofile?
I've made a demo DVD with Gui for Muxman, Paint.Net and DVD slideshow GUI.
Get it here. (37,9 MB)
Load the VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO into Media Player Classic to view it.
The 'view one-by-one' is done manually - it's quite tedious. I'm thinking about how to export from DVDsGUI to GUIforMUXMAN in a automatic way(including the subtitles). The grid menu designer is really clever thanks!
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borax
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| Is there a way to make a new TitleSetMenu without adding a videofile? |
No, why would you need it?
I will have a look at your demo when I have a fast connection (at work  )
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| to GUIforMUXMAN in a automatic way(including the subtitles). |
For MuxMan only SUP subtitles are supported...
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tin2tin
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| Is there a way to make a new TitleSetMenu without adding a videofile? |
No, why would you need it? |
On the demo DVD I use one titel set for gallerys(chapters) and one titelset for one-by-one photo sub menus(link from a button on the main menu(I guess titelsets of other submenus can't be linked from the main menu)). In order to get started a new titelset I had to add a hidden video. When "playing all" these added videos are played too, thats why both slideshows are played twice, when hitting "play all".
Is there a better way?
Do you know any commandline srt to sup or ssa to sup converters?
EDIT: When burning this demo dvd and playing it from a stand alone, I found out that moving from one button to another button in the main menu isn't done logically, and it isn't always the prefered button which is preselected, when comming to a new menu(One-by-one: the next button would be prefered to be pre-selected). Meaning that I'll have to look deeper into these things... has anyone come acrosss a free videoplayer with remote buttons simulation as an alternative to MPC?
EDIT2: It looks like DVDSupEncode.exe will convert MicroDVD subtitles to sup with a commandline.
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Last edited by tin2tin on Feb 13, 2007 02:17, edited 4 times in total
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AlanHK
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| tin2tin wrote: |
| Do you know any commandline srt to sup or ssa to sup converters? |
If you use the DVDAuthor mode of GfD, rather than Muxman, you can use SRT subs.
Note that it does not support italic codes as some SRTs have.
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borax
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Nice interesting work...
1. Commandline to sup program:
http://web.quick.cz/FKasparek/Software/DVD/DVDSupTools.htm
2. I don't understand why the moving from 'Photo Gallery Tokyo' jumps to 'View One-ByOne Oxford'... But in order to check this, I would need the project file (.gfd).
[EDIT] I've found the reason... The 'View One-ByOne Oxford' button is 'higher' (y position=365) than the 'View One-ByOne Tokyo' button (y position=367). I know this is not 'obvious', but I've tried a lot of algorithms for the button 'autorouter' and none of them worked 'perfect'. The current algorithm uses the minimum y distance (measured as distance between the bottom of button1 to top of button2) as major criterion. This ensures at least, that all buttons are connected in any way, but it leads to results like this, if the buttons are not 'properly' aligned. Sorry, maybe I find a better solution one day...
3. MPC can be configured to simulate remote buttons for DVD menus, although it is not very 'reliable'. Open the 'Options' in the 'View' menu and select 'Keys'. Scroll down to the 'DVD...' commands and set up your preferred keys + 'Modifiers' (Alt, Ctrl...)
4. Concerning the necessity of an additional titleset...
You could use the following approach:
MainMenu
Play Slideshow (JumpTT TitleSet1_Title1)
Chapters (JumpSS vts_1, vts_ttn_1 : PTT_Menu)
One-By-One (JumpSS vts_1, vts_ttn_1 : RootMenu)
Titleset1Menu
Add the first image
Add a menu (type submenu) for the next One-By-One image (TS1SubMenu1)
Add a 'real' chapter menu (add menu and set the type to Chapter(ptt) ) and hide the button (TS1SubMenu2)
Load the TS1SubMenu2 and design the chapter selection
Load the TS1SubMenu1 and go on with the One-By-One images...
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tin2tin
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| 3. MPC can be configured to simulate remote buttons for DVD menus, although it is not very 'reliable'. Open the 'Options' in the 'View' menu and select 'Keys'. Scroll down to the 'DVD...' commands and set up your preferred keys + 'Modifiers' (Alt, Ctrl...) |
I didn't know thanks!
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4. Concerning the necessity of an additional titleset...
You could use the following approach:
MainMenu
Play Slideshow (JumpTT TitleSet1_Title1)
Chapters (JumpSS vts_1, vts_ttn_1 : PTT_Menu)
One-By-One (JumpSS vts_1, vts_ttn_1 : RootMenu)
Titleset1Menu
Add the first image
Add a menu (type submenu) for the next One-By-One image (TS1SubMenu1)
Add a 'real' chapter menu (add menu and set the type to Chapter(ptt) ) and hide the button (TS1SubMenu2)
Load the TS1SubMenu2 and design the chapter selection
Load the TS1SubMenu1 and go on with the One-By-One images... |
That's a good idear - and maybe even use the Angle menu for the One-by-one(bad name...).
When doing the one-by-ones I'm using the images created at chapterpoints as menu backgrounds. Adding a new "next" button and copy the layout for the next menu... and so on. Is this the simplest way to do these One-by-ones?
I PM'ed you with the project file for the slideshow.
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lennu
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| borax wrote: |
or a special 'reload menu' command which can automatically highlight the back button (example for your project!):
LinkPGN TS1SubMenu1_pg1, button=6
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Thanks for the tip. But i have another problem. I have two subtitle streams. Stream nr. 1 is turned on by default (i've checked the autostart box). Now if i choose to display subtitle stream nr. 2 (SetSTN subpicture=2:ON ; LinkPGN TS1SubMenu1_pg1, button=6), yet subtitle stream nr 1 is used.
I it a bug or am i doing something wrong?
And one question more
How it starts to count those buttons... from top to bottom?
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borax
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| i've checked the autostart box... |
'Autostart subtitles' puts a 'SetSTN subpicture=1:ON' in the pre command of the title... It is therefore always used, even if no menu is created at all. If you want to have the control for subtitles yourself, disable autostart. If you want a 'default' which may be reset by the audio/subtitles menu, you need to use a register (like GPRM5) which is set in the pre section of the audio/subtitles menu and then checked in the pre command of the title.
Example:
In the pre command of the title (start the VM command editor from the Video+Audio files dialog) use:
if ( GPRM5 == 1 ) break
SetSTN subpicture=1:ON
In the pre section of the audio/subtitles menu use:
Mov GPRM5, 1
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| How it starts to count those buttons... from top to bottom? |
No, not necessarily... The number is according to the order shown in the project explorer (within the 'Buttons' node of the corresponding menu)
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lennu
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I don't know whether this is the right place, but I think I found a bug in GFD/GFM 1.01.
When i double-click on a button what is linked to TS1SubMenu10 (LinkPGCN TS1SubMenu10), GFM redirects me to TS1SubMenu1.
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borax
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It is the right place. THX!
Will be fixed in version 1.02.
I'm currently working on 'correct' NTSC timecodes which were ignored so far (drop frame/non drop frame and the strange dvdauthor (nondrop)² frame timing).
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Ejorne
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Hi Borax,
Thanks for the creation and support of such a nice piece of art GUI...
I think i will use your GUI because i think it's great to make audio-only dvd's.
Therefor i use the muxman engine. i want to create the dvd out of wav files.
But when i use muxman as stand-alone, i can choose a 96/24 wav file. muxman will author that to a dvd. but your qui will not accept 96khz files... is it possible to remove that restriction? then i would be very very happy 
muxman only will give me a lot of work and/or a dvd without chapter and also without all those beautiful things in your gui like the songnames as tiltle/chapters...
tia
Ejorne
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borax
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Hi Ejorne,
Thanks for your nice words
You are right, this restriction is not necessary. I just forgot to remove it. The simple reason for this: I don't have any 96kHz material. Will be fixed in the next version.
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Ejorne
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| borax wrote: |
Hi Ejorne,
Thanks for your nice words
You are right, this restriction is not necessary. I just forgot to remove it. The simple reason for this: I don't have any 96kHz material. Will be fixed in the next version. |
I look forward to the next version. 
I happend to record some (almost all) of my analog source into 24/96. (like lp's, some old tapes and lately some stereo-sacd records) So, i kept heaving problems to put that material on DVD. I was planning to down-sample all my records to 48Khz, but i thought it would be unwise to do that for the quality of those records...
So, I'll just wait for your next version. I have plenty of hdd-space left. And also burned some dvdrw's...
I have also tested to upsample CDDA tracks to 96/24. I don't know how it's possible. (or it's just my imagination) But i think it sounds better than the original cd. Therefor i used the secret rabbit plugin for Foobar. And converted into dvd with muxman.
Maybe it's the way my class-d receiver handled those cdda or 96/24 records thats bringing the different in quality that i think i hear... Because when i look it in the technical way, i can't imaging how a upsample can improve quality. That's not likely. So it shall be my receiver that's causing those difference i think...
So, thank you very much in advance for removing the 96KHz restriction...
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borax
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New development version...
- 4:3/16:9 Menu aspect ratio may be changed per VTS (Menu-background-dialog for a TitlesetMenuXX)
- 96KHz restriction for wav files removed (Audiotitlesets with MuxMan only)
- BugFix: ChapEditGFD checks if a chapter mark is already defined
- Bufix: If double click on a chapter button, no option was selected -> Crash
- In dvdauthor mode VOB files may be used directly (no rename necessary), and these are checked for the usual problems:
-- Several titles within the vob file (=SCR moves backwards)
-- No sequence header within the first 10kB of the file (=probably the file is only a part of a vobset)
-- No padding bytes at the end of the file a (=probably the file is only a part of a vobset)
-- elementary video file (like from ChapEditGFD)
Download here:
http://www.boraxsoft.de/other/GfDGfM103Test.zip
Remark: Update only! A functioning version 1.02 is necessary.
Overwrite your current GUI_DVDauthor.exe and ChapEditGFD.exe with the new ones from the zip file.
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Ejorne
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Thanks !!!
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