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SpectateSwamp
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Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Canada
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Another Video Tip:
I used the remote, to adjust the zoom on the camcorder
when shooting my famous "Whitecourt white crow" video
I had a 40 power spotting scope, mounted on a tripod
My 10X camera was on another tripod, right behind it.
(Bait - a heavily butteded sandwitch, multi-grain)
I could start and stop the video, as well as zoom
without disturbing this delicate setup.
tip 2
When outdoors, have the camera on and ready.
At the first hint of action, hit the record button.
no matter where it is pointing.
It may take a second or so, to get the recording going
I would have caught the Weasel, catching the mouse
if I had followed this advice.
tip 3
if driving about and you spot something. Start videoing as
you leave the car, right through your approach and circle the
subject if you can.
Don't just sit there, shoot and move, shoot and move.
tip 4
If your are circling, a large area. Move at a quick pace,
I bend forward, with the camera in my extended right hand.
This seems to keep the action smoother.
If you follow the tips listed here you will get some excellent video.
No matter what your subject.
Sometimes you can be videoing something completely boring when
something special happens.
The mix needed for Really great video:
90% Great content
10% Editing (I'm being pretty generous here)
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SpectateSwamp
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Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Canada
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The other site where I was trying to poach some members
(so I could possibly get a little more support)
Took down my post.
So I put up another one and used the C word (Censorship)
I'm just glad that hasn't happened here (Yet)
If anybody has found these tips usefull,
they may just want to grab a copy of the forum text before
it disappears.
another tip:
On drive abouts. Open the window and with camcorder in hand
extend it out and over your head by a foot or so.
(with the microphone taped over)
It is a different view and no dirty windows.
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SpectateSwamp
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Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Canada
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I got reinstated at that other site.
Another tip:
-I use the camera in auto mode 99% of the time.
Watch the replays closely, to see how it reacts when moving
between lighted and darker locations.
I'm moving the camera, all the time and have no control
of the lighting.
-When doing political forums. look for a spot where the subjects don't
have a wall light right behind them.
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BobK
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Joined: 22 Apr 2003
Location: Largo, FL
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Having read through less than 1/2 your posts on this thread, it's obvious you don't edit your writing either. The result is similar to most unedited video- excessive repeatitive garbage mixed in with non-repeatitive garbage. Reading and watching garbage is an even bigger waste of time than editing.
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SpectateSwamp
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Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Canada
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You just typed 50 words not much to criticize there.
I have made lots of statements.
I'll blame everything on typos.
I'm still waiting, for a little support.
Don't be scared of these edit thugs.
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Grain
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Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Location: Canada
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Remember when:
You were at your buddies watching his latest home movie, 20 minutes into it your looking about, wondering if he replaced his windows with triple glaze, contemplating whether your body mass at a full charge will make it through all 3 panes enabling you to escape with minimal blood loss.
Remember when:
You were at a family gathering watching the latest video recording of nature shots by the uncle no one likes to talk about, 20 minutes in you fake a seizure with the help a couple Tums you chew but don't swallow, you come to realize while at the bar you stop at on your way to the hospital that you will never arrive at, that if you were just honest with your friends & family, and told them that their videos were just too plain piecemeal and boring, perhaps you wouldn't have to fake your death or risk your life to avoid their home movies.
Not editted for run-on sentances.
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Supreme2k
Greetings
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: Right Here, Right Now
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Can't you just write a guide already?
You're not discussing anything, which is the purpose for threads and posts. Hell, you haven't really stuck to your topic at all, only double/triple/infinitile posting the same thing (and squeezing in some name calling in any spare moment).
Why don't you:
A. Write a guide. If there are people interested in your "method", you will help them out much more that way.
B. Just drop it (which can include A). You are just rambling and repeating. I'd rather not see this topic closed, but I won't cry if it merely sinks.
C. Go back to where you were "supported". You are not contributing here, and are purposely (as you have pretty much admitted) pissing off the regular members.
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SpectateSwamp
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Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Canada
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lordsmurf
Video Restorer
Joined: 10 Jun 2003
Location: Want my advice? PM me.
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| SpectateSwamp wrote: |
tip 2
When outdoors, have the camera on and ready. At the first hint of action, hit the record button. no matter where it is pointing. It may take a second or so, to get the recording going
I would have caught the Weasel, catching the mouse if I had followed this advice.
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I had a camera off with a lens cap on, over my shoulder hanging around back, and I didn't have any trouble. That little SOB and running as fast as a cockroach too, he wasn't sitting around smiling for the camera!
Wasting film is not good advice. There must be a balance between insuring the shot, and blowing 100% of your budget on film/video. While you want plenty of shots, you don't need countless tons of unneeded crap recorded. This is where "editing behind the camera" happens. Learn to decide what is needed, and hone your ability to anticipate the action. If you fail to anticipate properly, and miss a shot, then learn from it, and do better next time. Professionals take the shots they want, they don't shoot tons of film and simply hope that it somehow ends up on the reel.
People that want to shoot video really need to learn the basics of still photography first. Then learn the nuances and subtle differences between video and still cameras. Video was a natural evolution from still photo, and the concepts overlap to this day.
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SpectateSwamp
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Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Canada
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agentchrisssf
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Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Location: United States
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Is this guy Uwe Boll by any chance?
Anyway, I love editing. Editing is my hobby, I enjoy editing probably more than anything else in the world. I'm not GREAT at it, but it's incredibly fun. I wouldn't be into video at all if I couldn't edit. I make low budget movies. REALLY low budget. They come out decent and entertaining because of my editing. There's no substitute for good camera work, but that said, editing can make something that looks like 4 guys mumbling and fooling around in front of a camera look decent. Editing is the basis for everything. How would anybody make independent movies? And yeah, an hour in an editing program can make home movies watchable. Nobody cares that they're not "fresh, unedited video."
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guns1inger
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Joined: 01 Apr 2004
Location: Miskatonic U
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You can't take a poster seriously when they have typo's in their sig
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jaxxboss
So kewl a member
Joined: 22 Apr 2003
Location: JAX, FL
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Supreme2k
Greetings
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: Right Here, Right Now
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Mike Fishcake
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Joined: 27 Sep 2005
Location: Manchester, UK
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Next week, Swampy tells us all that we shouldn't use a steering wheel whilst driving a car because we should have pointed it in the correct direction to start with, and the best way of curing a migraine is to furiously thrash yourself on the skull with a 10 pound hammer.
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SpectateSwamp
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Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Canada
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Finally, some good reasons to edit. Because you love it.
I don't edit because, I don't like it much. I love shooting and moving on.
It's affordable to shoot and shoot, now with DVD's so inexpensive.
There are a couple, non video related computer topics,
I'd like to rant on. I'll have to find the right forums.
So far, this seems like the right forum, for this discussion.
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SpectateSwamp
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Location: Canada
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guns1inger
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Location: Miskatonic U
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All this proves is that you are a serial sh&t stirrer, and get the same response in every forum you post - you are an idiot, go away. I guess that by erfusing to learn any useful skills you have plenty of time to go around stirring up trouble for no good reason.
But don't get all paranoid when people lock your posts. It's not some conspiracy of censorship because your ideas are too radical for the editing business and they put pressure on the forums to shut you down. Locking a thread like yours is simply the forum equivalent of a fly swat. Personally, I think it's time you got swatted.
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fritzi93
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Location: U.S.
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SpectateSwamp
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Location: Canada
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One site just banned me.
Must have hit a nerve.
The other forum just locked the posts.
So many good arguments there too. Censorship?
It's OK I'll quickly find a replacement Forum.
Got any suggestions?
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jimmalenko
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Joined: 27 Aug 2003
Location: Down under
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Censorship ? Private forums, I'd say. You have no rights apart from that which the admin and/or mods grant.
I'd suggest re-visiting wherever it was that led you to here in the first place  
Whilst you're entitled to your opinions, there's no need to spam and cross-link your views across multiple forums at once. That's called trolling.
I've read all the cross-links supplied so far and I haven't seen one person agree with you - surely this should tell you something.
... and after all that I can only summise this:
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mattso
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Location: Australia
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BobK
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Location: Largo, FL
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| SpectateSwamp wrote: |
One site just banned me.
Must have hit a nerve.
The other forum just locked the posts.
So many good arguments there too. Censorship? |
Censorship is a misused term. The government censors. Forums just edit.
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It's OK I'll quickly find a replacement Forum.
Got any suggestions? |
Try here. Looks like a site made specially for you: http://www.stupid.com/stat/TRLE.html
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SpectateSwamp
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Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Canada
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Should be a little more open, to the future of video, than that.
Shoot a lot of video, you get good with the camera.
Shoot a lot of video, when you are good with the camera, then look out.
The editing can come later, much much later.
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SpectateSwamp
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Location: Canada
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I saying it in as many ways as I can.
You dumb sh**s, there is another way.
Don't edit anything.
Shoot lots short and very short video clips.
Play them back in any order and don't play others.
The content is less screwed up, if you just trim from the end of the vid.
People need to know there is an alternative, to editing the Sh** out of video.
Get out there and show some unedited current video.
What's stopping you?
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zoobie
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Joined: 27 Feb 2005
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains
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funny stuff...
Smurf said it best:
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People that want to shoot video really need to learn the basics of still photography first. |
That is so true. I've been shooting for over 30 years and have had several SLR's.
The OP seems to think his ideas are cutting edge...but it's all been done before.
The only new thing I've seen lately is a video effect done with SLR's. I'm sure you've seen it on commercials. The guy set several cameras in a semi-circle timed to go off closely giving an action shot a unique 3d effect.
Now, that's original thinking.
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FulciLives
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Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA in the USA
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| zoobie wrote: |
The only new thing I've seen lately is a video effect done with SLR's. I'm sure you've seen it on commercials. The guy set several cameras in a semi-circle timed to go off closely giving an action shot a unique 3d effect.
Now, that's original thinking. |
Are you talking about the "Matrix" effect ... often called "bullet time"?
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zoobie
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains
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yep...had to look up your terms because i didn't know the name of the effect
I found this link to bullet time that dates back to cell animation but first used photographically in the movie 'children of dune'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_time
Seems I also read an American first thought of surrounding the subject with SLR's for this great slo-mo effect.
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Been spreading the good word elsewhere as well, I see.