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ipred
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Post Posted: Sep 02, 2006 06:12 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Thanks for the reply my friend but as far as i know in virtualdub i can set the values of the positioning even if the subtitle file is srt.No?What's the difference in the positioning if the file is ssa?Virtualdub doesn't recognize the positioning values if the file is srt?It doesn't recognize the black field as part of the image?I have the textsub2.23 filter from vobsub.Has anyone succeded to put the subtitles in the black field under the widescreen movie?With what values?Another filter maybe?

(I want to burn the subtitles on the movie,make them permanent and have the subtitles under the movie in the blak field.I know how to do it with other programs but i want to know if vd gives me this option) question.gif

Sorry for all the questions.I'm trying to make you understand what i want to do. redface.gif

kschang
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Post Posted: Sep 02, 2006 22:25 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I've looked in many SRT files and I've never seen any positioning commands, so I have NO IDEA what you may be talking about with VDub. I *do* know that SSA format supports positioning.

ipred
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Post Posted: Sep 03, 2006 04:39 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
When i load an srt file(or any another format ) in vd and go to textsub.23 filter, this is the option i get to change the values of position:


Anyway,thank you very much for the replies. smile.gif
I'll try to work with ssa and see what happens.

Baldrick
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Post Posted: Sep 03, 2006 05:30 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Does the source video contain any black borders? if not you must add black borders in virtualdubmod, under Video->filters add the resize and use same new width and new height but click expand and add a new frame height. Then add the subtitle filter.

ipred
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Post Posted: Sep 11, 2006 12:47 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Many thanks Baldrick smile.gif

Deaf Raiders
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Post Posted: Sep 19, 2006 16:01 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
can this work with a VOB file?
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kschang
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Post Posted: Sep 19, 2006 16:57 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
No, since VOB is a container of MPEG2 video, sound (MP2 or AC3) and SUP (bitmapped subtitle) format. You will need to extract the proper stream and add your subtitles first.

Deaf Raiders
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Post Posted: Sep 19, 2006 17:24 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
will it work on avi how do i view it then i have this .cue or .bin file someone said view it with a different player
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kschang
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Post Posted: Sep 19, 2006 21:34 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
.cue/.bin are disc images. Burn it to a CD and enjoy, probably VCD.

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Post Posted: Sep 20, 2006 05:50 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
I know they are but it still can be playable on a different video player on the PC
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kschang
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Post Posted: Sep 20, 2006 10:20 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Then the player can read the image directly, but the image cannot be WORKED on directly.

Deaf Raiders
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Post Posted: Sep 20, 2006 10:42 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
i needed a program called vcdgear to convert it to Mpeg... all sorted now
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chaos_maiden
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Post Posted: Sep 21, 2006 17:24 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
kschang wrote:
You need to convert subs to SSA format, which supports positioning of the subs. Then it's a matter of trial and error to get the right placements as it depends on the font sizes and all that.


Does anyone know how to do this conversion (or know of a thread that discusses it)? I have some srt subs i'd like to convert to ssa to avoid the problem with the textsub filter not recognizing the srt file (mentioned previously in this thread, if you don't know what i'm talking about).

manono
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Post Posted: Sep 21, 2006 17:36 Posts View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Hi-

Convert SRT to SSA? Yes, piece of cake. Lots of ways. The one I use is to open the SRT in Sub Resynch (it comes included in the VobSub package), and then Save As SSA.

You may even be able to fix the SRT by opening it and saving it again as SRT using the same method. Not positive about that, though.

impulse_16
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Post Posted: Sep 27, 2006 15:05 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
hey guys im having a problem here..im trying to put subtitles into a video..the original source is 2.3 gb....but when virtualdub has like only 10 minutes running and making the new file...this new file's size is allready like 5gb....whats happening and how can i fix it?

celtic_druid
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Post Posted: Sep 27, 2006 17:42 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Probably already covered in this thread but it sounds like you didn't select any video compression. If so then you get raw RGB24, so 3 bytes per pixel which adds up very fast. You need to select a compressor or if you are only after an intermediate file, don't compress at alll; frameserve.

impulse_16
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Post Posted: Oct 05, 2006 17:33 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
hey here is my question, i converted some avi files to dvd...my source file didnt have any subtitle...now i have the vob files, the ifos. and the bup.....i wonder...can i use this method to work with the vob file that i have, and add the subtitles....and if i have to do something extra..since there where no subtitles before....thanks

celtic_druid
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Post Posted: Oct 05, 2006 20:02 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Best bet would be to re-author with subs.

roustabout99
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Post Posted: Oct 30, 2006 19:04 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
TY so much, i just got a creative zen vision w: and have been wanting to put all my old kung fu movies on it so i can watch them at work on the plasma, but i had no idea how to get the subs directly on the video file..5 deadly venoms on the big screen:)

ross_diadame
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Post Posted: Nov 16, 2006 16:02 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
celtic_druid wrote:
Probably already covered in this thread but it sounds like you didn't select any video compression. If so then you get raw RGB24, so 3 bytes per pixel which adds up very fast. You need to select a compressor or if you are only after an intermediate file, don't compress at alll; frameserve.


but if we don't use FULL PROCESSING MODE, there wont be subtitles. pls help

celtic_druid
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Post Posted: Nov 16, 2006 20:37 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
???

FULL PROCESSING MODE does not prevent you from selecting a codec or from frameserving, so I really don't get what you are trying to say. Still to avoid full processing mode. You can use textsub in AVISynth, then set VDub to fast recompress.

ross_diadame
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Post Posted: Nov 17, 2006 00:43 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
heheh. i didnt know that. i'll try.
anyways, does anyone here know how to input 2 audio and an subtitle which is not permanent so that it would be like an ogm file too but in avi format?
i used ogm to avi by nisarg kothari before and it worked fine but when i used it to another video audios and subs are just demuxed. well, maybe it only works for certain ogm files.

celtic_druid
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Post Posted: Nov 17, 2006 09:36 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Use AVI-Mux GUI. Multiple audio streams aren't an issue, but muxed subs are less compatible than external subs when it comes to avi. Better to leave then external or to mux to .divx with xsubs. That or leave it as an ogm.

chaos_maiden
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Post Posted: Nov 21, 2006 19:52 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
For anyone who is having the problem with the textsub filter not loading your srt files, you can get around it by opening the subs in subtitle workshop and saving them ssa/ass files. There was a suggestion earlier in this thread to do this by opening them in subresync (part of the vobsub package), but that doesn't work. This problem is apparently a fluke in the latest version of vobsub, since it seems to affect all vobsub applications and I had no trouble with srt files in vobsub prior to upgrading. Just though I'd share my solution, since others seem to be having this issue as well.

ross_diadame
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Post Posted: Nov 24, 2006 16:45 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
problem here. i had successfully added subtitle to my ogm. my mkv project, there is sound but still there's no subtitle. i added subtitle through filter > subtitle > full processing mode but still no subtitle in the output. help..

dvdsub
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Post Posted: Nov 28, 2006 04:47 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
ok now to the next question !

if i whant to add more the one sub whit this porgram
how do it work need help!?

ross_diadame
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Post Posted: Nov 30, 2006 08:56 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
dvdsub wrote:
ok now to the next question !

if i whant to add more the one sub whit this porgram
how do it work need help!?


nope. unfortunately subs are permanent. cant use 2.

Hachlod
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Post Posted: Dec 10, 2006 11:02 Posts Comp View users profile Send private message Reply with quote
Ok, hi everybody. I am new to this webpage and I want to know more about subtitling. I've read your guide about how to add the .srt files in the filters. That works. But when I'm supposed to save the whole thing it goes up to 70GB big. it used to be 700MB!! Why does this problem occur? And oh, I have one more question; Why does the movie have lags when it's saved? Didn't have befor