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Cobra Moderator
Joined: 06 May 2002 Location: UK
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Steve,
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| I am trying to figure out what path to take on a sytem upgrade(XP mobile oc'd to around 2.4, A64 or P4). |
You can't buy a CPU and expect to overclock it to a certain amount. You just can't tell what's in that little box - a hot, unstable chip that might get an extra few MHz or the most insane overclocker ever seen.
Just making sure you know.
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smarkgraf Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2004
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Cobra,
I completely agree. I discovered this first hand with my XP2500. Although pretty much everything I've seen with the XP mobiles is that they OC very well.
What concerns me the most is why similar systems don't yield similar results. For example; I get 1:39 on my XP BARTON@2.1G/AN35N/512Mb system and Flaystus is getting 1:09 on a very similar system XP3000 BArton/AN35N/512Mb. Our ram timings are the same. If I dial my FSB up to 195, I can match his clock speed. With that my FSB is almost 30MHz higher, but his encode time is still approx 25 sec faster.
Here is another question reguarding these tests. Does anyone think that running SP2 vs SP1 helps with the times? That is the other difference between our systems.
Thanks,
Steve
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glockjs Member
Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Location: the freakin desert
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it looks like something is sucking up your resources...i had the shuttle an35ultra in my tests and i was only running a 2800+...i'd say look for spyware/malware if you've closed everything that it's still doing those type of times. you saw my benchmark when i was running the system as normal while encoding....1:39
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smarkgraf Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2004
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@glockjs,
I run Adaware and spybot regularly as well as I have AVS running all the time. I will run a test tonight shutting everything down and see if that make a difference.
moderators: I will take furhter discussion offline to another topic if you like.
Thanks
Steve
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glockjs Member
Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Location: the freakin desert
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@smark...i dunno. somethin has gotta be leachin your resources. you time just doesnt make sense.
update:
hehe, closer and closer i get
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Cobra Moderator
Joined: 06 May 2002 Location: UK
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glockjs Member
Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Location: the freakin desert
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glockjs Member
Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Location: the freakin desert
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smarkgraf Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2004
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Well I think I fixed my computer problems. Reseated CPU/cleaned HSF. Then did a fresh install of XPPro/SP2. Backed off to 190x11 with 7-3-3-2 timing. End result was a 47sec time.
Hope this works.
Steve
CPU-Z version 1.27.
CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1
Name AMD Athlon XP
Code Name Barton
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
Family / Model / Stepping 6 A 0
Extended Family / Model 7 A
Package Socket A
Technology 0.13 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
CPU Clock Speed 2090.1 MHz
Clock multiplier x 11.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 190.0 MHz
Bus Speed 380.0 MHz
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 2090.1 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 64 bits
Mainboard and chipset
Chipset nVidia nForce2 Ultra 400 rev. C1
Southbridge nVidia nForce2 MCP rev. A4
Sensor chip IT 8712
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Status enabled, rev. 2.0
AGP Data Transfert Rate 4x
AGP Max Rate 4x
AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MBytes
Memory
DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
DRAM Size 512 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 190.0 MHz
FSB:DRAM 1:1
CAS# Latency 2.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 7 clocks
# of memory modules 1
Module 0 Melco DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c
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glockjs Member
Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Location: the freakin desert
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wow. very nice. congrats
im jealous. im lookin to go to a mobile chip soon. my 2800 doesnt wanna be stable after certain speeds. but the other forum i visit there's people with xp-m 2600 runnin at at least 250fsb-260fsb @2.6ghz stable with the board i just got and tccd ram
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waheed Unique
Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Location: Manchester, UK
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My PC keeps giving me blue screen of death error, and hasn't been formatted for ages (it has alot of crap on it) so this might affect encoding time.
TMPGEnc gave me 1.05 results.
Im using my raptor for the tests.
I have not overclocked my PC in any way.
CPU-Z Report
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CPU-Z version 1.28.6.
CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1
Name AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Code Name NewCastle
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Family / Model / Stepping F F 0
Extended Family / Model F F
Brand ID 4
Package Socket 939
Core Stepping DH7-CG
Technology 0.13 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, x86-64
CPU Clock Speed 2211.3 MHz
Clock multiplier x 11.0
HTT Bus Frequency 201.0 MHz
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 2211.3 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 128 bits
Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Motherboard model A8N-SLI DELUXE, 1.XX
BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS revision ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE ACPI BIOS Revision 1003
BIOS release date 01/20/2005
Chipset nVidia nForce4 rev. A3
Southbridge nVidia nForce4 MCP rev. A3
Sensor chip IT 8712
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory
DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
DRAM Size 1024 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 201.0 MHz
FSB:DRAM CPU/11
CAS# Latency 3.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 8 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (TRC) 12 clocks
DRAM Idle Timer 16 clocks
# of memory modules 2
Module 0 Corsair DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Module 1 Corsair DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c
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rallynavvie internal affairs
Joined: 10 Sep 2002 Location: Minnesotan in Texas
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Added, thank you. Your marks are about what I'd expect from that system.
I still need to figure out a "performance quotient" for all these. I'm trying to utilize the PR clock rating and the encode time for the main "PQ" and then using different graph methods to incorporate overclocks and their worth to the chart. One of these days it'll just click, but with these results all over the place like they are.
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Cobra Moderator
Joined: 06 May 2002 Location: UK
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fatty4ksu Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2004
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Cobra Moderator
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waheed Unique
Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Location: Manchester, UK
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Nice.... Wish I had a dual core CPU
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waheed Unique
Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Location: Manchester, UK
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| fatty4ksu wrote: |
http://img251.echo.cx/my.php?image=x25dy.jpg
33 seconds on my athlon 4200X2
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Would it be possible for you to post the CPU-Z report.
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vhelp ..Semi Neutral..
Joined: 31 Mar 2001 Location: New York
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Hi guys, TGIF and good 4th to you all
@ fatty4ksu
That one beats mine by 1 second, hehe.
Question:
Does cpu-z *show* ram chip speeds ??
When I purchased a 512mb ram chip (to replace my burnt 256mb chip)
the new chip (from staples) had stamped on it, 333Mhz.
@ cobra (or others) ..
* Regarding the link U posted above on memory test. Can it be run under
Windows ??
* Or, are there any (hopefuly, direct links to .zips) that anyone are aware
of that can be run inside windows ??
Thanks,
-vhelp 3414
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rallynavvie internal affairs
Joined: 10 Sep 2002 Location: Minnesotan in Texas
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No, MemTest really needs to be run of its own accord. If you were to test memory with the OS running it would interfere with whatever memory the OS or other applications are using. MemTest creates a boot floppy so just boot from it and run the full test at least once. You can stop it any time thereafter as it'll repeat the tests over and over until you stop it. It's a great way to stress test your memory too. I let it run for 24 hours and never got a single error, though I'm sure I worked the MCH and RAM heatsinks to their utmost.
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fatty4ksu Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2004
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vhelp, I don't think you used the right setting for your encode.
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funsoul Member
Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Location: nj
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holy guacamole those X2's are fast!
cobra moved my post over and came across this thread....here are my results:
CPU-Z Report
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CPU-Z version 1.30.
CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 2
CPU#1 APIC ID = 0
Name Intel Xeon
Code Name Prestonia
Specification Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz
Family / Model / Stepping F 2 7
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Brand ID 11
Package mPGA-604
Core Stepping C1
Technology 0.13 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2
CPU Clock Speed 3572.5 MHz
Clock multiplier x 15.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 238.2 MHz
Bus Speed 952.7 MHz
L1 Data Cache 8 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Trace Cache 12 Kµops, 8-way set associative
L2 Cache 512 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 3572.5 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 256 bits
CPU#2 APIC ID = 6
Name Intel Xeon
Code Name Prestonia
Specification Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz
Family / Model / Stepping F 2 7
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Brand ID 11
Package mPGA-604
Core Stepping C1
Technology 0.13 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2
CPU Clock Speed 3572.5 MHz
Clock multiplier x 15.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 238.2 MHz
Bus Speed 952.7 MHz
L1 Data Cache 8 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Trace Cache 12 Kµops, 8-way set associative
L2 Cache 512 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 3572.5 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 256 bits
Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer ASUSTek Computer INC.
Motherboard model PC-DL, 1.0X
BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS revision ASUS PC-DL ACPI BIOS Revision 1007
BIOS release date 09/14/2004
Chipset Intel i875P rev. A2
Southbridge Intel 82801EB (ICH5) rev. 02
Sensor chip Winbond W83627THF
FSB Select 800 MHz
Performance Mode enabled
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Status enabled, rev. 3.0
AGP Data Transfer Rate 8x
AGP Max Rate 8x
AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled
AGP Aperture Size 128 MBytes
Memory
DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
DRAM Size 2048 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 238.2 MHz
FSB:DRAM 1:1
CAS# Latency 2.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 5 clocks
# of memory modules 4
Module 0 OCZ DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Module 1 OCZ DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Module 2 OCZ DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Module 3 OCZ DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c
Start: 11/11/2005 5:49:26 PM
End: 11/11/2005 5:49:59 PM
Dealing time: 00:00:32
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D:\tmpgtest\DIVX_Archive_NTSC6.m1v
Format: MPEG-1 720x480 29.97fps VBR 7000kbps
Video: C:\tmpgtest\VideoHelp Benchmark\DIVX_Archive_NTSC.avi
Audio: none
Result: Succeeded
Dealing time: 00:00:32
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rallynavvie internal affairs
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I need a non-OCed result on that as well please. Thanks!
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funsoul Member
Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Location: nj
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Will do.
I'd also like to see more about fatty4ksu's setup/result....gotta be an o/c'd result. (told a friend with an X2 4600+ about this thread, he'll test and post result sometime this weekend)
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Paul William Member
Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Location: Bay Area, California
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