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AlecWest
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Joined: 23 Mar 2002
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| manono wrote: |
| But you didn't answer fritzi93's question. If telecined film, they can be IVTC'd back to 23.976fps before the PAL conversion, for much better results. If you don't know how to answer the question, or don't understand the question, then it's in your best interests to learn. Just know that if converting 29.97->25fps when you could be converting 23.976->25fps, you are unnecessarily ruining your videos. |
Fair enough. I assumed a different definition to "telecined." With an MPEG2 file in front of me, how do I tell if it's telecined?
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manono
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Open it in something where you can advance a frame at a time without it being deinterlaced. VDubMod can handle it, I think. Scroll to a place with motion/movement. Advance a frame at a time. If, in every 5 frame sequence, you see 3 good progressive frames and 2 nasty-looking interlaced frames, then it has been telecined and can and should be IVTC'd before the conversion. If every frame is interlaced, then it was shot with interlaced 30fps video cameras, wasn't telecined, and can't be IVTC'd. If these are movies we're talking about, then almost certainly the true framerate is 23.976fps.
By the way, you can also open your Procoder encoded PAL MPV, M2V, or VOBs the same way and have a look at the frames one-by-one. Do you like what you see?
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AlecWest
Slow but sure...
Joined: 23 Mar 2002
Location: Location: Location: NTSC
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| manono wrote: |
Hi-
Open it in something where you can advance a frame at a time without it being deinterlaced. VDubMod can handle it, I think. Scroll to a place with motion/movement. Advance a frame at a time. If, in every 5 frame sequence, you see 3 good progressive frames and 2 nasty-looking interlaced frames, then it has been telecined and can and should be IVTC'd before the conversion. If every frame is interlaced, then it was shot with interlaced 30fps video cameras, wasn't telecined, and can't be IVTC'd. If these are movies we're talking about, then almost certainly the true framerate is 23.976fps. |
TV captures on my Hauppauge card, 29.97. But, I will try your suggestion. Surely, converting from 23.976 to 25 would take less time and be less messy. Thanks.
| manono wrote: |
| By the way, you can also open your Procoder encoded PAL MPV, M2V, or VOBs the same way and have a look at the frames one-by-one. Do you like what you see? |
Well ... I can't do it right now. It's busy encoding (grin). But, I do know I like what I see in the end result as it plays. 
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