Sticky labels can screwup the playback of your DVDR's

INFRATOM · Member Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Location: USA

I never had problem with labels on dvd when I discovered the only problem is Centering it Perfectly. I made a jig like bushing to sit on cd-stomper to center the labels with small hole 18 to 22 mm. Glossy comes out beautiful just like a picture. If someone needs detail of the jig I made ask. The beauty of the disc out weighs every now and then that may screw a label well it is 40 cents in these days and you can remove it with water or else. Most of the freezing problem is from media quality and burning at too high of speed.

slalanc01 · Member Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: CANADA

Don't use LABEL!!!!

After experienced playback problems I have test My labelled disk with DVDinfo and it say I have 23 error!!!, I remove the LABEL and I check again and NO ERROR at all!!!,

I have tried 2 other disks and I have obtained similar result!!! I will never put any label on my DVD!!

MeDiCo_BrUjO · Voodoo Child Joined: 21 Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL

I think that if we make this poll again, the results will be way different.
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ps99472 · Member Joined: 18 Sep 2003

here's my contribution:

I have many unplayable dvd-r (freezing, pixels, etc.) that range from 3 months old to 2 years old. They all have CD stomper labels with printing on them.

I do a disk to disk copy with nero and the new copy plays fine w/o a label.

same burner (optorite), same media (ritek's), same dvd player (phillips dvp)

wouldn't this make the label the only culprit?

leebo · Member Joined: 22 Oct 2000 Location: United States

Craig Tucker · Moderator Joined: 05 Apr 2001 Location: England

Soaking in warm soapy water also works well for removing labels.
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RNR1995 · Member Joined: 12 Mar 2003

I use Compulabel 312840 and have never had a problem.

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SCDVD · Member Joined: 05 Oct 2004 Location: United States

kyoli · Member Joined: 06 Feb 2005

- A complete guidl on how to label DVD without trouble and how to rescue your failed labeled DVDs

As discussions in this forum, a lot of people including me suffered from sticky label problem. After labeling, data closing to the DVD edge will fail to read out. Many wonderful discussions about the reasons also have been posted in this column. The main reason is the disk warping after labeling due to the unbalanced heat cofficients on both sides, which has been verified by many reseach and testing.

Here I would like to give a complete guid on how to label an DVD without this trouble and how to rescue failed labeled DVDs. So far, by these methods, I have successfully labeled any DVDs and rescue all DVDs failed.

- How to label DVDs with sticky label
No special tricks for label printing. When the label printing is done, put your label on DVD by the following steps:

You don't need to use labeling kit to label, by a little bit more attention, label should be well aligned. Now, put your DVD on a clean surface, hold DVD label's edge by your fingers and align the label edge with DVD edge and stick just 4 to 5 cm long DVD edge with DVD edge. Note, just stick very narrow edge for positioning but not big area. Now leave your fingers from the label, hold up the DVD. Bend the DVD towards laser side(oppsite to label side). While the DVD is bending, the label will automatically attached to the DVD surface. The tips here are, don't stick label to surface by pushing it directly, instead bend DVD to let label stick on. By this way, the label will stick on a pre-warped DVD surface, which will prevent later on the laser heat during the play causes DVD to warp towards the label side.

- How to rescue a failed labeled DVD
If you have some DVDs already failed with label, you don't to tear label off. The following steps can completly save them. Sometimes the way of puting on label introduced in the beginning dose not work perfectly for some disks, especially for data closing to the edge, the following steps will solve the problem.

Blow the hot air using hair dryer towards the DVD label surface, especially its edge part. While heating the surface, you bend the DVD towards the laser side. Turn the DVD around to bend the DVD for all directions. This will rescue the failed labeled DVD. The tips here are, the heat soften the glue of label, then bending DVD caused the label stick on a pre-warped surface. This pre-warped room will kill later heat warping on the oppsite direction.

Tom Saurus · Member Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Location: Canada

I read this thread after I had already purchased CD Stomper. I am scared to put a lable on a CD or DVD. I am thinking about Printable DVD's and as far as I know there are no problems with Printable DVD's.
I can use CD Stomper for making inserts for CD and DVD Cases, so it still has value.

Craig Tucker · Moderator Joined: 05 Apr 2001 Location: England

Printable DVD's are excellent. I use Taiyo Yudens with an Epson R200. Great results. I will never put another sticky label on a DVD.
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lordsmurf · Posted: Oct 31, 2005 21:02

I saw a guy in the store earlier tonight. He said his DVDs quit working because labels were coming off.

The store clerk suggested he try a better brand of label.

I wish more people came to this site. And read it and listened. It'd sure save a lot of people a lot of grief.

Labels are a timebomb of trouble for DVDs.
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Peterdragin · Member Joined: 23 Oct 2004 Location: Michigan

Hey guys I just was at the Epson web site and they have refurbished R200's for 59 bucks and FREE shipping. (just go to the clearance center.)

I ordered two of them, can't buy them any cheaper!! Hell ink costs more thatn the Printer.

Danja · Member Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Location: United States

Ok, has anyone tried these labels??? Avery 8962

http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=811376&&An=text

On the package, Avery GUARANTEES that they will work in your DVD player--they are designed for them. It also explains WHY normal labels do not work (I don't have the package in front of me right now.) I have been trying them and I have had no problems yet (though very little testing so far.)

suAve · Member Joined: 03 Jan 2001

Never had problems in the past with VCDs initially and then DVDs..

Until I got a portable player for the car... After 20-30 minutes, they start to skip. I leave the player off for about an hour or more, and I can watch again for about 20-30 minutes (if not less).

Pop in an original or one with no label and it plays no problem...

Not an issue of mis-aligment (I think) as they still play perfectly well in my big player.

No more lables - For now a good sharpie until I find a decent deal on an R200...

In fact, I slowly started the removal process

funnel71 · Member Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Location: United States

Well, I've labeled all mine, and if I found skipping, I blamed it on burning too fast, so I redid the disc, and it was fine. I burn the movie, test it, stick a memorex label on it, then slide it through the Epson R200 which prints directly on the disc. I've used the "printable" discs before, but their label material doesn't hold ink that well, and it turns out in much a lighter shade compared to the original.

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ark · Member Joined: 14 Mar 2003

Sticky paper Labelling DVD-R has given problems for me.

It is not that the adhesive would affect the recording dye layer (it is sanswitched between 2 plastic layers unlike CD-R).

I then removed the sticky label and cleaned off all glue traces using soap - the DVD-R again plays fine.

I suspect it has to do with dynamic balance of the disk being affected by paper labels - the laser has difficulty in tracking due to additional vibration.

I no longer use paper labels, Perhaps I will go for a direct ink based printer in future.

suAve · Member Joined: 03 Jan 2001

I think there are two reasons that labels cause problems:

a) Not properly centered label - This would cause imbalance without a doubt

b) Heat - Specially in small players, that tend to run hot, the labels might cause the player to overheat more than usual, causing problems (could also be an imbalance due to the heat ?)

My labels are perfectly centered, with no air bubbles at all.

I can read labeled DVDs on my desktop and the standalone player (full size).

But nothing but problems in the laptop and in the portable player... I revived all DVDs that I've taken the labels out...

My .02...

ToughRoeToHoe · Member Joined: 26 Oct 2005 Location: United States

After many hours, a new burner, new authoring software, and burning software, I will never again use paper labels on a DVD. With paper labels pixellation, freezing. Without paper labels, no problems, none, nada, zip. Put label on disk has problems. Take label off disk works great.

ToughRoeToHoe · Member Joined: 26 Oct 2005 Location: United States

TheFamilyMan · Posted: Dec 09, 2005 17:05

I admit it...I loved to use sticky labels on my DVD project...it made them look so nice and personal. But alas, everyone else really did know better and now do I: Sooner or later you WILL have playback problems if you use sticky labels! The manufacturers should put warnings on their sticky label products: WARNING: Use of this product may inpair your DVD player's ability to play the applied disks.

As to why, I like the heat argument: paper, glue and the disk itself all have different expansion coefficients, so a sticky labelled disk "gets bent out of shape" when it heats or cools.
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TheFamilyMan · Posted: Dec 14, 2005 16:06

God almighty...I brought up "Sonic Label Maker" on my work computer and it started off with this dialog:

Let the truth be known!
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TooLFooL · Disgustipated Joined: 26 Feb 2004 Location: USA

ive seen some manufacturers ARE actually putting that warning on thier package now.
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