Expert help with dvd Player please!!

[mlmiller707]

First off I have been burning .avi files to data dvd's without problems for a long time. My Dvd player is a Philips DVD5982, also very old. It works well with all my old files and even plays most new ones. I say most b/c that is where the problem is. It will just freeze on some new files, and go back to load screen. I have tried buying new dvd and blu-ray but that just caused more problems. The Philips tech suggested 1. cleaning it with a disk cleaner 2. burning at slower speed 3. that my reader was gone. 4. that it was a code issue. I tried and troubleshooted all, nothing seems to work. It can not be the reader or it would not play at all especially old ones. It can not be the specific new files, b/c they and the disk work just fine on the pc, all the way through. If it were the codec issue, why would it play at all. Below are 4 movie specs. The top 2 failed after 3/4 of the movie. The last 2 played all the way through.

AVG-BITRATE:......... 2119 kb/s
AUDIO:....... ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s
VIDEO:....... mpeg4, yuv420p, 720x384, 23.97 fps(r) CUTS OFF 3/4 OF MOVIE


Size: 1524930826 bytes (1.42 GiB), duration: 02:11:34, avg.bitrate: 1545 kb/s
Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s
Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 720x304, 25.00 fps(r) CUTS OFF AT 3/4 OF MOVIE



AVG-BITRATE:......... 1666 kb/s
AUDIO:....... ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s
VIDEO:....... mpeg4, yuv420p, 720x304, 23.98 fps(r) WORKS ALL THE WAY


Container and Codec: AVI & Xvid
Frontend And Writing Library: VirtualDubMod & XviD 62
Bitrate: 1 320 Kbps
Encoding: 2 Pass
Resolution: 720x304
Display Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1
Quality Factor (QF): 0.252
Frame Rate: 23.976 fps WORKS ALL THE WAY

So what is the factor that is making the first 2 stop at about the same point? They are all made around the same time

[october262]

first - Philips DVD5982 is a dvd player only it will not even read or play bluray discs at all.
what brand of blank discs do you use?? the best ones are verbatium.
there is a firmware upgrade you can try for your player model - http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=DVP5982/37&scy=us&slg=en

[mlmiller707]

All of my files are .avi. I never said anything about playing blu-ray files. It was updated a long time ago. The same brand of blank disks that are used for the files that work. Memorex , verbatim. It's not the disk. The comment about the blu-ray was supposed to include player, but the one I bought claimed to play .avi, but ran into problems with Cinavia.

[El Heggunte]

MediaInfo should tell you whether the problematic AVIs contain "problematic features", such as quarter-pixel, Global Motion Compensation, or "too many" B-frames per P-frame

It's equally possible that those AVIs were just improperly muxed, go figure

Nowadays "nobody" uses VirtualDubMod anymore, except some random pirates, AFAIK.

[mlmiller707]

Ok that sounds somewhat on the right track. If they were improperly muxed, why would they work all the way on the pc? Is this common nowadays, b/c until recent years I have never run into this problem with this player. Should I stick to x264 files instead, don't even know if they will play,but it doesn't hurt to try? I can try the media info, but don't understand why at least 10 files this year and last always stop 3/4 of the way. Why not after 5 minutes or random spots. Sure they are not exact, but yes I have watched the last 20-30 min of film on the pc on the ones that stop.

Also the file that was using VirtualDub works just fine all the way.

[mlmiller707]

This is for the 1st file listed. Only one I still have on my pc.

General
Complete name : C:\Users\bob miller\Desktop\icdm\TVis.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile : OpenDML
Format settings : rec
File size : 1.39 GiB
Duration : 1h 33mn
Overall bit rate : 2 119 Kbps
Writing application : AVI-Mux GUI 1.17.8.3, Feb 16 201019:42:50

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : 2
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 1h 33mn
Bit rate : 1 922 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 384 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 1.85:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.290
Stream size : 1.26 GiB (91%)
Writing library : XviD 66

Audio
ID : 1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 2000
Duration : 1h 33mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 129 MiB (9%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 64 ms (1.53 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration : 192 ms
Title : ac3

I don't know what to look for do you see any thing that is problematic?

[mlmiller707]

Or instead of going through all the trouble shooting steps, can you recommend a player to buy. Don't need blu-ray, don't want to run into Cinavia issues, but if it plays blu-ray then its a plus. Even though upconversion is nice to see on box, it is kind of redundant to what tv does anyway. So it just needs to play all .avi , and have great processing.

[videobruger]

The info in post #6 has packed bitstream. Perhaps try MPEG4 Modifier to remove.

[mlmiller707]

Wouldn't removing the "packed bitstream" remove some audio properties. Why is it there to begin with if it doesn't effect the audio. Never used that program, but it does not hurt to try.

[mlmiller707]

The info in post #6 has packed bitstream. Perhaps try MPEG4 Modifier to remove.

Excellent work Videobruger!. That worked flawlessly. Well I guess I will just have to unpack before burning. Do I need or want to mess with any of those A/R ratios in either column. Will it increase the res if I change it. I doubt it since that would involve a different source. I tried to understand the purpose of this PB. http://itsjustonesandzeros.blogspot.com/2007/01/what-is-packed-bitstream.html

It's way to technical for me. Thanks again, problem solved.