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  1. Member
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    Debated asking this here or somewhere more attuned to Windows issues, but here is so friendly I thought I'd give it a go. This is the 'computer' section, after all.

    Sometimes it works right, if I issue three successive 'winkey-e' commands and then two alt-F4 commands, I'm looking at the last remaining explorer window SELECTED.
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    But if I run quickpar and then cmd.exe and then type exit (alt-F4 won't close cmd.exe) and then press alt-F4, I'm looking at the shutdown/reboot dialog as removing cmd.exe does NOT make the previous quickpar window 'selected', even though it's on top.
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    Just tried this on my XP machine and it doesn't work there either. But if I have cmd.exe running and minimized and I run quickpar then unminimize and then minimize cmd.exe, XP shows quickpar selected, Win7 does not.
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    What I'm hoping is that someone has a small program that can query windows maybe every tenth of a second for what window is on top and force it to be selected.
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    Or any other useful idea. I just get so frustrated when I'm working in a window, open a second to check something, close it and not be where I previously was with the window I'm working in being selected.
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    Any ideas or fix?
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    TIA,
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    ??? Why aren't you just using [Alt+Tab] (hold down/repeat Tab, if necessary) to get exactly to the window you want? That's available in ALL versions of Windows (including 8.x IIRC).

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    Seems quite straightforward to me. Open window b on top of window a, close b and you should be back at window a.
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    but you're not and I automatically try and use the scroll wheel or start typing and nothing happens ... and then I click on the title bar, which is much more efficient that alt-tab.
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    I want windows to work right and I just want to know if someone cares enough to have created a workaround for a glaring lack of professionalism on microsoft's part. You go ahead and put up with added effort like it's aok with you, me, I'm peeved that proverbially 'taking a step up and taking a step down' doesn't land you on the step you started on.
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    microsoft can (as my example showed) do this correctly, they just don't even try most of the time.
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    pcG
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    Now, excuse me, I have to go eat some crow in another thread (artifacts and such)
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    It strikes me that there's a better way of saying what bothers me about this problem (and I assure you, it IS a problem).
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    For an operating system called "window"s, if there is one or more window open, then there should ALWAYS be a 'selected' window.
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    Open a window and it is perforce 'selected'. Then open a second window and it now is 'selected'. So, when you close the second window, there should be a 'selected' window and if that were true, then it would have to be the one on top, the previously 'selected' one is once again. but it's not.
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    It just boggles the mind that one or more windows are open and NONE OF THEM are selected.
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    I'm sorry, that just seems all kinds of wrong to me, like consistency and reliability mean nothing ... unless you consider who we're talking about, I suppose.
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    I can't be the first person to notice this glaring inconsistency, so I'd think with 95% market share, someone with programming skills might have at least attempted a workaround.
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    Maybe not. sigh ...
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    The desktop and the taskbar are also windows. If another window looses focus on account of the being closed, I think the taskbar receives the focus by default. I think technically, the taskbar is always the top window. [Edit] ...unless maybe some other window is set to "always on top", but I haven't experimented with that to find out.
    Last edited by usually_quiet; 23rd May 2015 at 13:18.
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    Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    The desktop and the taskbar are also windows.
    That's correct.

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    If another window looses focus on account of the being closed, I think the taskbar receives the focus by default. I think technically, the taskbar is always the top window. [Edit] ...unless maybe some other window is set to "always on top", but I haven't experimented with that to find out.
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    I found something that might help with the OP's problem, but did not test it. I don't mind the way Windows 7 behaves by default.

    http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/215607-how-do-i-get-top-most-window-alwa...ml#post1811615
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