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I hate to admit it, though (despite my interest/tinkering over the years) I still have no clue what certain things mean. I know that 4:3 vs 16:9 is full vs widescreen but why is it that when even a professional movie studio releases a film fullscreen in 1080, it still needs to be pillarboxed? If they rescan the print, shouldn't they then be able to display it widescreen?!
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The programs are being presented as originally intended.
Pre-1954 there was no such thing as widescreen movies (with a very few exceptions.) Until the late 1990's all television was 4:3. To display it any other way would crop off part of the picture. -
IIWY, I'd stop using the term "fullscreen". A "widescreen" (aka 16:9) title plays FULL SCREEN on a 16:9 TV (which most are these days). A "fullscreen" (aka 4:3) image never plays as a FULL SCREEN on a 16:9 unless some doofus has set the display to stretch things out. Would make more sense to call it "narrow screen" or "square-ish screen".
Or better yet, call it 4:3 and 16:9. Then everyone knows what you're talking about.
As smrpix mentioned, a 4:3 image cannot be displayed correctly AND fully on a 16:9 display (and vice-versa). It can either be displayed fully and incorrectly (stretching, and/or cropping) or correctly but not fully (letter/pillar-boxing).
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Okay, but this had a wide theatrical release in '89. Why are the DVDs and even the iTunes version still in 1080 4:3? Yes, it's pillarboxed so it doesn't distort, but if rescanning why not just use the proper... eh, I don't think I even know what I'm trying to say or how to make it understood :/
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Some movies were shot in 4:3 and others in 16x9,end of story.
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Not sure but maybe do you mean the few theatrical wide screen typical widescreen 2.35 films that have been released as a cut down 4:3 version, sometimes seen on TV. But this would be a long long time ago. Sometimes a blockbuster is released on DVD that was shot as 2.35 is cropped to fill the 16:9 home TV frame rather than have black bars top and bottom, terrible practice but it does happen.
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Prior to the advent of HDTV virtually nothing was shot at 16:9. Common theatrical widescreen movie formats were wider than 16:9. The closest being 1.85:1, many at ~2:35:1. Since DVD and Blu-ray only support 4:3 and 16:9 DAR, any movie that doesn't have one of those aspect ratios will be cropped, pillarboxed or letterboxed.
Less popular movies are often mastered from old 4:3 studio video tapes. Hence they are pan-and-scanned to 4:3.
If you're downloading torrents -- who knows what was done to them.Last edited by jagabo; 27th Aug 2014 at 07:19.
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I don't know exactly what you're showing in those screen caps. In the last one, the image is very close to 16:9 after removing the black borders.
Do you realize that when viewing video in a full screen WINDOW on a 16:9 display, after leaving room for the Start bar, the window's borders, the title bar, the menu bar, and VLC's transport controls you don't have a 16:9 view port? You disproportionally lose space at the top and bottom of the screen so the view port is wider than 16:9. -
It would've been too easy for that to occur to me *blush*
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Maybe it's just me, but I really have a hard time trying to understand why people make such confusions about aspect ratios.
If the original material is 4:3 then it is IMPOSSIBLE to properly display it in 16:9 without pillarboxing it or cropping it at the top and/or bottom. It's not rocket science!"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."