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  1. Hi
    I want to capture old VHS tapes and transfer to DVD.

    I have an elgato game capture device and also a composite to DVD I upscaler adapter.

    I set the elgato software to the highest quality and expanded video...

    The resultant TS files (combined) were 24GB....I don't know if this is normal, but it's npbeen all night converting to MP4 and still not finished.

    My questions are...

    1> will I gain any quality using the composite to hdmi upscaler ( choice of 720 or 1080)
    2> would I be better off just feeding composite to the elgato, using the supplied lead, inc audio
    3> if the composite to hdmi adapter is considered worth using! should I set to 720 or 1080 for VHS capture
    4> what would be the best settings on the elgato software to give the very best quality without having settings higher than required for the source.

    Many thanks in advance
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    Let's try and take this bit by bit (from a respondent that knows zilch about Elgato and its software)

    1. Is it necessary, with that software to convert your .ts file to Mp4 ? Reason. You will have to re-encode that MP4 for dvd-compliant files so every additional encode means a loss of quality. With the correct software (see below) you might be able to go straight from .ts to dvd-compliant which is the only one encode.
    2. [Q1] Hardly. Your source is SD (standard def]. Unless the upscaler is hardware based you are only adding pixels which you will throw away when un-upscaling (not a real word but I trust you know what I mean) back to SD.
    3. [Q2] Probably. That may simply pass a SD feed to your HDD
    4. [Q3] isn't that the same as Q1 ?
    5. [Q4] Maybe someone who has used the s/w can help there (see b. below)

    But let us consider what you already have.

    a. Post a mediainfo report of the .ts capture file.
    b. Maybe the software allows you set the .ts capture as 720*576 4:3 mpeg-2. That may already be dvd-compliant. No need to convert that to MP4
    c. Use software such as avstodvd to author your dvd from the .ts file and imgburn to burn the files to a disk
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  3. TS to MP4 with ElGato's software is just a remux. No loss of quality. But if it hasn't finished overnight something has gone wrong.

    Whether upscaling will give you better quality depends on the quality of the upscaler. Keep in mind that all HDTVs and Blu-ray players, and many DVD players, have the ability to upscale SD video. If you're not using an s-vhs deck and a line TBC -- that will probably give you a much bigger gain in quality than upscaling.
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  4. I am using a.....EtekcityŽ Mini AV Composite Video/Audio RCA CVSB to HDMI Converter: Upscaler supports HDTV, High-definition 720p, 1080p, VHS, VCR, DVD and many more devices from amazon uk...which connects to the elgato.
    The VCR is a 6 head nicam hifi....hardly used, so should give good playback. It has sart output which I use with a scart to composite adapter to the composite to hdmi adapter.
    As the hdmi upscaler is hardware driven, can I assume I will get some quality improvement ?

    I intend trying some test captures of 10 minutes with different settings....the composite to hdmi adapter has an output switch of 720 or 1080....

    So will try combinations of 720 / 1080 and the same in the elgato software....and check file size and quality.

    It's good to know that the elgato TS to mp4 is only a remix and will not lose quality....it did finally finish converting this morning, took about 12 hours for 24GB.....

    Any further help would really a be appreciated

    Thanks
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    Post the mediainfo report of the original .ts and the remux. As jagabo stated, it should NEVER take 12 hours and that 24 gig capture is hardly a long one.

    Would also like to see a short sample of a video captured by this method - no remux - and one done by just a plain 'n simple composite connection to the Elgato.
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  6. The TS files are split by elgato into 30 minute chunks...approx 4 gb each.

    Would a media info file of one of them be sufficient ?

    Will work on the samples.....what length would be acceptable ?

    Thanks

    Ps am a really big fan of black adder, must get the box set out and watch it again
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    If the .ts files are complete with headers then, yes. But I guess that they are not and after the first 30 mins, ie the 4 gb limit as imposed by the OS, you just get .002, 003 etc or something similar.

    A cunning plan will just be a short sample. Two or three minutes will suffice. Then the .ts file will be complete with all the headers.

    With the short sample you can remux that as well post the mediainfo reports of both.
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  8. Hi.....a very cunning plan indeed.....will try tomorrow ...

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    Be very careful when you use the name 'Baldrick' around these forums
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    TS to MP4 with ElGato's software is just a remux. No loss of quality. But if it hasn't finished overnight something has gone wrong.

    Whether upscaling will give you better quality depends on the quality of the upscaler. Keep in mind that all HDTVs and Blu-ray players, and many DVD players, have the ability to upscale SD video. If you're not using an s-vhs deck and a line TBC -- that will probably give you a much bigger gain in quality than upscaling.
    Yup right even Hauppauge dose that same thing to
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