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  1. Hello,

    In trying to backup my dvds to x264 i came up to the my La liceale seduce i professori DVD to compress. The DVD has some bad artifacts all across the movie as seen in the sample I linked below:

    https://www.mediafire.com/?9go418xkcxkay4q


    I also linked a picture for faster preview: http://www.mediafire.com/view/bkno7b2w9f2vh56/2014-07-06_194916.jpg

    I tried different filters, the only one close to having some effect was Blur More from Virtual Dub but by using that most detail is lost.

    Any help is appreciated with improving the quality of the future rip.
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  2. vanished El Heggunte's Avatar
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    If I were you, I'd leave the ripped VIDEO_TS folder untouched, the original video is sufficiently-screwed already : - /
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  3. I already ripped the dvd to hdd with makemkv, but the file is 3.791 gb, which is kinda much considering the quality imo, that's why i wanted to compress it.
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    Well I can not believe that is a fair representation of the original dvd. If, that is, it is a commercial release and not some cheap rip-off.

    I have seen that movie on tv and the quality was much better.
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  5. I got the dvd from Amazon. The other dvds I got with Gloria Guida and Fantozzi were good. Also the dvd menu is good. Could be a dvd shrink copy with some crap settings.

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    Originally Posted by jondak View Post
    I got the dvd from Amazon. The other dvds I got with Gloria Guida and Fantozzi were good. Also the dvd menu is good. Could be a dvd shrink copy with some crap settings.
    That means nothing. Amazon turns a blind eye to many sellers who sell bootlegs. I've bought some myself from Amazon where foreign originals were cost prohibitive and/or impossible to buy. The fact that the menu is good also means nothing. While I haven't seen this from anything I've bought on Amazon, I've got a DVD set of a China TV series that was sold in Malaysia and I'm reasonably certain that what I bought is a DVDShrink compressed version of original DVD-9 videos shrunk down to DVD-5 size as there are all kinds of compression artifacts during motion scenes.
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    Can you provide the exact Amazon link ?

    My money is with jman98 on this. It is not an original dvd. But let me see the link first.

    A short sample mpeg, with no re-encoding, of the vob would also assist.
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    Did a little research.

    There are two listings on Amazon Italy. One is direct with Amazon. The other, and more expensive, is MarkePlace. The dvd release for the latter is not offered by Amazon at all although it looks identical.

    Also, take a look at youtube. There are clips of that dvd on there. Even those, although poor quality, are much better than yours.
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  9. Here's a cheap trick: Downscale to about 1/2 to 2/3 width then upscale back to full width. That will get rid of the vertical stripe artifacts without hurting the sharpness too much.
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    Dont know how cheap that trick is, but I've been stealing it from jagabo and sanlyn for a couple of years. I tried descratch filters first. Waste of time. They just ignored me. I used the resize bit and some ideas borrowed from 3 or 4 other people, used countless times here. Denoise in stages, sharpen in stages. You could probably spruce this up. Would take time, though. Christmas maybe.

    Oughtta be another copy of this movie somewhere. I'm always amazed at the depth and scope of creativity of mind that can figure out so many ways to wreck video.

    P.S.: OMG, I forgot the mp4.
    Originally Posted by jondak View Post
    In trying to backup my dvds to x264.........
    I think you mean "h264", the codec. "x264" is an h264 encoder. Whatever. I know what you mean.
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  11. Hello and sorry for the late response as i had to get home and search trough some history for find the link:

    http://www.amazon.de/La-liceale-seduce-professori-Import/dp/B000IHZ4JW/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=...A1SLZIXLZ0UA4S

    As i don't live in Italy i prefer to buy from Germany as i have friends that live there that can get me the stuff when they come back home.

    I'll probably try to find another DVD when i finish with to other dvd i want to backup.

    LE:

    LMotlow can you provide a script on what you did. Thank you.
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    Well that is the same dvd as offered by Amazon Italy direct no MarketPlace.

    I have never heard of that video company - it is certainly not one of the better known Italian distributers.

    Of course even coming from Amazon direct is no guarantee of the quality if the source is suspect. There is a well known US firm which has had various names and all are rubbish since they inevitably are sourced from VHS. Collectors, and I count myself as one, do buy them since there is no other source.

    Or maybe it was something that you did in the conversion. Only a sample of the original would tell.
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    Originally Posted by jondak View Post
    LMotlow can you provide a script on what you did. Thank you.
    Uh, darnit, the result was less than I wanted so I probably canned the script. But I can put it back together a little later and post. That grainy junk and vertical lines weren't the only problems. Looks like somebody let their pet chicken play with that video.
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  14. I did this:

    Code:
    Mpeg2Source("La liceale seduce i professori title00_track1_eng.d2v", CPU2="ooooxx", Info=3) 
    
    ColorYUV(gain_y=70, off_y=-16, off_u=-3, off_v=1)
    BicubicResize(360, 432)
    McTemporalDenoise(settings="low")
    MergeChroma(last, aWarpSharp(depth=20))
    RemoveSpotsMC()
    aWarpSharp(depth=5)
    Sharpen(0.3)
    
    nnedi3_rpow2(2, cshift="Spline64Resize", fwidth=720, fheight=576)
    aWarpSharp(depth=5)
    Sharpen(0.3)
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  15. Originally Posted by DB83 View Post
    Or maybe it was something that you did in the conversion. Only a sample of the original would tell.
    I did provide a sample in the 1st post, i used Mpg2Cut2 to cut a 15 sec sample without audio off the dvd in m2v format. The file was in a mediafire link.
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    Ok. I did see that.

    If that was un-treated ie original - and no re-encoding on your part even if it is mpeg2 - then my case rests as to the suspicious nature of the source.

    I like Gloria Guida but having seen that dvd I would give it a wide berth.
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    Originally Posted by jondak View Post
    I'll probably try to find another DVD when i finish with to other dvd i want to backup.
    Your choices will be limited and nothing my be better than what you already have. There's a very small market for this kind of Italian sexploitation film. If people just want porn they can get that for free on the internet. The reviews on IMDB say the film is bad. I found a review on Amazon where a guy liked it but he admitted that he bought it specifically to see one Italian actress nude. The film is 35 years old and I have no idea if the production company even exists any more or if the negative exists or if copies were stored correctly. It may be a case of you have to take what you can get and the only companies that are willing to put out DVDs of this kind of movie will do it quickly and poorly to cut costs.
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  18. Offtopic: Well i don't think the movie is sexploitation genre. If i would compare I would with Porky's and the such, as in sexy comedies.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    I did this:

    Code:
    Mpeg2Source("La liceale seduce i professori title00_track1_eng.d2v", CPU2="ooooxx", Info=3) 
    
    ColorYUV(gain_y=70, off_y=-16, off_u=-3, off_v=1)
    BicubicResize(360, 432)
    McTemporalDenoise(settings="low")
    MergeChroma(last, aWarpSharp(depth=20))
    RemoveSpotsMC()
    aWarpSharp(depth=5)
    Sharpen(0.3)
    
    nnedi3_rpow2(2, cshift="Spline64Resize", fwidth=720, fheight=576)
    aWarpSharp(depth=5)
    Sharpen(0.3)
    Yep, I did pretty much the sme thing, right down to MCTemporalDenoise, RemoveSpotsMC, and resizing. See? Told ya I'd learned a lot from jagabo. My ColorYUV was a bit different -- I used contrast instead of gain. Looks like gain worked better IMO.

    I'm wondering about the resize to 360x432. I resized to 360x576. I note that yours was cleaner regarding that vertical garbage. A particular reason for using the 432 vertical figure?
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  20. The movie has a aspect ratio of 1:66 probably that it why he used 360x432.
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  21. Originally Posted by jondak View Post
    The movie has a aspect ratio of 1:66 probably that it why he used 360x432.
    No, the video wasn't very sharp vertically either so I downsized the vertical to get a little more noise reduction and sharpening. Reducing the vertical to 288 seemed like to much so I picked 432 because was 3/4 of 576. I also tried reducing the horizontal to 480 instead of 360 but that left significantly more of the vertical stripe noise.
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  22. In your script on thing that don't work for me is RemoveSpotsMC()

    I use the following RemoveSpots.avsi which gives me a Scrip error: there is no function named "Nullclip"

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    function RemoveSpotsMC(clip clp, int "limit", bool "_grey", int "Vectors")
    {
      _grey   = Default(_grey, false)
      limit   = Default(limit, 16)
      Vectors = Default(Vectors, 1)
    
      Vectors = (Vectors < 1) ? 1 : (Vectors > 3) ? 3 : Vectors
    
      super   = MSuper(clp, pel=2, sharp=2)
      bvec3   = (Vectors == 3) ? MAnalyse(super, isb=true,  delta=3, blksize=8, overlap=4, truemotion=true) : NullClip(clp)
      bvec2   = (Vectors >= 2) ? MAnalyse(super, isb=true,  delta=2, blksize=8, overlap=4, truemotion=true) : NullClip(clp)
      bvec1   = MAnalyse(super, isb=true,  delta=1, blksize=8, overlap=4, truemotion=true)
      fvec1   = MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=1, blksize=8, overlap=4, truemotion=true)
      fvec2   = (Vectors >= 2) ? MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=2, blksize=8, overlap=4, truemotion=true) : NullClip(clp)
      fvec3   = (Vectors == 3) ? MAnalyse(super, isb=false, delta=3, blksize=8, overlap=4, truemotion=true) : NullClip(clp)
      backw3  = (Vectors == 3) ? MFlow(clp, super, bvec3) : NullClip(clp)
      backw2  = (Vectors >= 2) ? MFlow(clp, super, bvec2) : NullClip(clp)
      backw1  = MFlow(clp, super, bvec1)
      forw1   = MFlow(clp, super, fvec1)
      forw2   = (Vectors >= 2) ? MFlow(clp, super, fvec2) : NullClip(clp)
      forw3   = (Vectors == 3) ? MFlow(clp, super, fvec3) : NullClip(clp)
    
      clp     = (Vectors == 1) ? interleave(backw1, clp, forw1) : \
                (Vectors == 2) ? interleave(backw2, backw1, clp, forw1, forw2) : \
                                 interleave(backw3, backw2, backw1, clp, forw1, forw2, forw3)
    
      clp     = RemoveSpots(clp, limit=limit, _grey=_grey)
    
      clp     = (Vectors == 1) ? SelectEvery(clp, 3, 1) : \
                (Vectors == 2) ? SelectEvery(clp, 5, 2) : \
                                 SelectEvery(clp, 7, 3)
    
      return clp
    }
    Do I have the wrong RemoveSpots.avsi plugin?
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  23. Thank you, seems i was missing RemoveDirt from

    http://home.arcor.de/kassandro/RemoveDirt/RemoveDirt.htm.

    Now working, will test the encoding tonight.
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