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  1. Hi.

    I use Creative Vado HD to record a video. The problem with it is that it saves video files in a complicated avi file which takes a lot of time to load in every video editor. And then it takes a lot of time to save this file. And during editing in WMM I've also found that the frames are not displaying very smoothly which is a little problem because sometimes I can only hear the sound in the video during editing.

    I was looking for solution of the similar problem in this thread (thank you for the replies by the way) but I still got a problem:

    http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/365177-What-software-should-I-use

    My question is:

    If you use Creative Vado HD and you do editing, then how do you do that? What software do you use? Do you convert this file to some other format which is easier to work on?

    If you don't use Creative Vado HD, do you know the solution to that problem?
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  2. Member budwzr's Avatar
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    Switch to Sony Movie Studio. It's a lot better and easier.
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    Originally Posted by damcz View Post
    If you don't use Creative Vado HD, do you know the solution to that problem?
    How do you know the creative is the problem? Give us some info on the files it creates by using mediainfo. You didn't post details of the computer you are using. That may well be the problem.
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  4. Originally Posted by turk690 View Post
    Give us some info on the files it creates by using mediainfo
    Info about the file by mediainfo:

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    General 
    Complete name : D:\...\VID00265.AVI 
    Format : AVI 
    Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave 
    File size : 3.60 GiB 
    Duration : 1h 0mn 
    Overall bit rate : 8 449 Kbps 
    
    Video 
    ID : 0 
    Format : AVC 
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec 
    Format profile : Main@L4.0 
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes 
    Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame 
    Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=5 
    Codec ID : H264 
    Duration : 1h 0mn 
    Bit rate : 8 262 Kbps 
    Width : 1 280 pixels 
    Height : 720 pixels 
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9 
    Frame rate : 30.000 fps 
    Color space : YUV 
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 
    Bit depth : 8 bits 
    Scan type : Progressive 
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.299 
    Stream size : 3.52 GiB (98%) 
    
    Audio 
    ID : 1 
    Format : ADPCM 
    Codec ID : 2 
    Duration : 1h 0mn 
    Bit rate mode : Constant 
    Bit rate : 176.4 Kbps 
    Channel(s) : 1 channel 
    Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz 
    Bit depth : 4 bits 
    Stream size : 77.4 MiB (2%) 
    Interleave, duration : 46 ms (1.39 video frame)
    You didn't post details of the computer you are using. That may well be the problem.
    Details of the computer I am using:

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    Intel(R) Pentium(R) M
    processor 1.70 GHz
    1.70 GHz, 0.99 GB RAM
    Is that enough information?

    How do you know the creative is the problem?
    Because it creates AVI files which are complicated and which require a long time of processing comparing to other AVI files.

    Switch to Sony Movie Studio. It's a lot better and easier.
    Thank you. I'll try it.
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    Open the pesky AVI files in VirtualDub, and then see what the item "File information" says.
    My wild guess is, the Creative Vado thing does not write a proper index, possibly it marks all frames as keyframes
    (or perhaps even worse, it marks only the first keyframe )
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  6. Originally Posted by El Heggunte View Post
    Open the pesky AVI files in VirtualDub, and then see what the item "File information" says.
    At the beginning I couldn't even open it in VirtualDub. After installing this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/ , I can open it but it doesn't display fully correctly. File information in VirtualDub is following:

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    Video:
    Frame size, fps (Ás per frame): 1280x720, 30.000 fps (33333 Ás)
    Length: 109747 frames (1:00:58.23)
    Decompressor: x264vfw - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC ... (H264)
    Number of key frames: 10975
    Min/avg/max/total key frame size: 28546/98326/112925 (1053847K)
    Min/avg/max/total delta size: 14217/27323/51896 (2635574K)
    Data rate: 8262 kbps (0.07% overhead)
    
    Audio:
    Sampling rate: 44100Hz
    Channels: 1 (Mono)
    Sample precision: N/A
    Compression: Koder-dekoder Microsoft ADPCM (0x0002)
    Layout: 2 chunks (0.00s preload)
    Length: 79237 samples (1:00:58.35)
    Min/avg/max/total frame size: 14029824/40569344/67108864 (79237K)
    Data rate: 177 kbps (0.00% overhead)
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    Your hardware is too outdated for AVC or HD, you need to upgrade
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    Originally Posted by damcz View Post
    Intel(R) Pentium(R) M
    processor 1.70 GHz
    1.70 GHz, 0.99 GB RAM
    Leave the AVI files alone. They are fine as they are. As poison said, your computer (I bet it is a laughtop) is woefully, severely, seriously, sorrily underpowered. Tough. Virtualdub, movie studio, and all other free and payware out there will not make any difference unless you use a computer with much more recent hardware.
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  9. So can you tell me: what hardware do I need at least?
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  10. Before you go mad on tech, just how involved do you need these videos you are making to be?
    Sony and Adobe editors need large amounts of memory and processing power.
    Have you ever considered trying another simple editor?
    I would definitely check if your mobo can take 4GB Ram too if it works better than WMM.

    http://www.videohelp.com/tools/VideoPad-Video-Editor
    Last edited by transporterfan; 27th Jun 2014 at 16:49.
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    Originally Posted by transporterfan View Post
    Have you ever considered trying another simple editor?
    Dragging through treacle would be faster than a OP's pentium trying to play AVC files, let alone edit it with even the simplest NLE. OP's hardware has to be updated, full stop. It should bare-knuckles at least include
    • a dual-core CPU
    • separate GPU
    • separate SATA hard drive to put captured/edited files in
    • 8GB of system memory
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