What program out there actually does this and does a good job of it?
I know it exists as I have seen webrips on usenet that look as good as the original.
I've been buying shows on Amazon but I don't want to have to use there unbox software to watch them.
I have a dedicate HTPC with XBMC and this is how I view 95% of everything I watch.
I've tried Aimersoft... it works but crap quality.
I emailed them about it and they told me to try their 'Iskysoft Video Converter Ultimate' as it does a better job... first of all if you have software that works for this why would you make a crappy and a good version Second... I tried it (trial) and it is only outputting the audio.
So, like I said I've seen the results so the software has to exist... anyone know what it is?
I searched for hours and only found countless programs that are all obviously made by aimersoft/iskysoft but with different skins.
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My guess is that there actually is nothing that can break it, and all the warez you see were obtained in some other way, probably using better screen recorders than the ones you tried or HD capture devices.
Silverlight encryption is fiendishly clever because it encrypts the audio and video separately. I've never heard of a program that can remove the encryption. The only thing I've ever heard of working is to use a commercial streaming media capture program that records the video as it plays on your PC.
Maybe the media capture programs are what people are using that post these files. I can assure you that aimersoft media converter works removing the DRM as I have used it but that quality is unacceptable for me.
Perhaps I will try one of the capture programs.... will have to research as I've never used one.
What I will not do is pay for videos that I can't just play where ever I want.... Hell if you buy a season of a tv show in HD it will cost double the price of the Bluray when it comes out... I will simply wait for the physical media to be released that I know I can rip and play in XBMC.
I understand why they do the whole DRM thing but it sucks for someone who is actually willing to pay for the shows and wants to use them their own way.
I don't think it is relying on screen capture... but I could be wrong there as well.
what is the minimum screen size of those vidoes when played inside the webpage ? it might be captguring that. there is no point in capturing a full screen source if, for instance, the display size is i.e., 640x360 (1.778 AR) and that that get stetched to your monitors/graphi cards dimension. it would be better to capture that display size, 640x360 and do your own thing to it later.
but what i wanted to say was this, i have yet to find a screen capture program that does not miss a frame here and there. this is a hard thing to do to get this sort of transparent or flawless video. i would run some test reviews of those vidoes you say are excellent from those people who post them. in other words, i would bring them each inside a timeline (avisynth script) and review each frames constancy, making sure that are no missed frames or duplicates (due to frame missfire (or drop) ) during screen capturing. then, come back here and update us to this info. i'm not sure what frame rate streaming (or youtube) videos are in. maybe 25 fps or 30 fps. does anyone know ? and what about the frame rate on that amazon site. find out what they are using. then test those videos inside a timeline. make sure they are fluid with no missing or duplicate frames. the only way to do this test is to scrub frame by frame. don't do the first few frames because they are usually buffered somehow. its when you start getting deeper into the video when you find the glitches. this may not be what you want to do but unless you do this you will always believe that these videos are flawless, untill somene else breaks the news and discredits those mentioned videos. i have a screen capture app that i am still working on. on some of the videos that i capture, they are near perfect, in terms of missfires or duplicates. but i would not rely on it souly. i just know that it is not perfect and i know what to expect in a screen capture utility app. i think you should review those videos and update us on what you find. it may help later. good luck.
what about capturing with a hdpvr2 from a settop box like a ps3 or roku or something? Do a realtime dub?
edit - or a hdpvr 1 using component cables from a xbox 360 or ps3 unit.Donatello - The Shredder? Michelangelo - Maybe all that hardware is for making coleslaw?
@usually_quiet... Thanks... and that sucks
@vhelp... I think you are over examining the situation. Frame by frame examination!!
Seriously... here is what I generally do. Take a show like Family Guy or The Walking Dead. I don't watch them on tv. The day after the show I simply download a 1080p web rip from usenet. These videos are flawless and by that I don't mean blu ray quality I mean they look exactly like a 2gig file you would download and play from Amazon. Clear smooth with no jitters and even 5.1 sound. These files I use as temporaries and when released I'll get the dvd or bluray and rip and replace.
On occasion and its rare an episode wont be posted or some specific shows. That is what I am downloading from Amazon.
I know the files I've downloaded are from Amazon because they have the exact same pre/post show advertisements with them.
So somebody somewhere knows how to do exactly what I am trying to do.
@yoda313... I don't have any experience doing what you are saying... I did just buy a Roku3 a couple days ago... still in the package actually. Are you saying I can do what I want with this?
...and Blu-Ray ripping is about to get a lot harder. DVDFab, Slysoft, and some others that sell ripping software have experienced legal troubles of their own recently. It appears DVDFab is out of the Blu-Ray ripping business as of yesterday.
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Pull! Bang! Darn!
@usually_quiet ... yeah, I haven't been around here much lately. I know this might be a touchy subject on forums but through a search I saw it being discussed before so I thought it would be ok. I'll look into what you said. I did see something in the last week or so about DVDFab... bummer.
@blimey Well, like I said I don't know how people are doing it but they are and quite well. However, at this point it seems as though it would be more trouble than it is worth. So I will just abort this quest as it has already consumed more of my time than I wanted it to.
I supposed I will just have to bite the bullet and use Amazons unbox for the stuff I can't currently rip... but it also looks like the Roku will play anything in my Amazon library as well so that is cool.
...but it also looks like the Roku will play anything in my Amazon library as well so that is cool.
Donatello - The Shredder? Michelangelo - Maybe all that hardware is for making coleslaw?
You can even watch Amazon Prime Instant Video through XMBC as well as your Roku. But Roku with Plex is probably an easier solution.
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And as I mentioned about 5 posts back I know the Roku can do this but my primary viewing is on XBMC....
BUT... I am not aware of any addons for XBMC that will allow me to play my Amazon library... if this is the case then this would have been all I needed to know from the beginning... I couldn't give a shit about the DRM if I could play it in what ever player I want... are you sure about this? I've never seen any thing in XBMC that reliably play Amazon or Netflix....
And I'm pretty sure they still don't without some web browser hack or whatever.
<<<EDIT>>>Just did a 5 minute research on XBMC forum... there is no Amazon Prime viewing in XBMC working at the moment as far as I can tell.
On another note... any Plex/Roku users here? and your thoughts on this option vs xbmc.
My primary uses in order of importance would be Movie/tv library playback... Amazon/Netflix playback... music... photos
Now not that it really means shit once you start watching a video but I really do like the flashy awesome interface of XBMC with a skin like Aeon MQ5 and extra addons like the Cinema Experience.
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The particular show I was talking about is only available from Amazon AFAIK
...and like I said the rips have the same previews as the ones I purchased from Amazon so that pretty much confirms it.
...are you sure about this?
I am not aware of any addons for XBMC that will allow me to play my Amazon library
On another note... any Plex/Roku users here?
and your thoughts on this option vs xbmc.
@manono... we are obviously misreading the hell out of each others posts.
So, I'll end it at that.
Except for the XBMC thing. Yes I am 100% correct about the Amazon/Netflix issues with XBMC... but it is not the fault of the developers it is issues with the providers.
As for never trying XBMC... that is a serious loss on your part. I've played around with the Roku some today and while I can see many things I like about it.... (even though I had to call customer service 5 minutes in to make thing work without a credit card... WTF is that BS!!) This means I could have not used my Roku without calling them unless I supplied a credit card or Paypal info!!.
That being said it will never be a full replacement for my main home theater viewing television but I can see it as a supplement to XBMC.
Last edited by lordhutt; 22nd Mar 2014 at 19:20.
I tried XBMC, but there was no TV service for it then, and which is what I really needed. If WMC is no longer an option someday, I'd be willing to look at it again. XBMC has improved quite a bit.
I have to say that your favorable mentions of Plex gave me the push to install it a week ago. Thanks for that, it's terrific. My wife especially likes it. She has an aversion to the HTPC.
Anyway, yeah, I have the Amazon channel installed on Roku and have a free trial coming. Just haven't got around to it. Personally, for movies I prefer Blu-Rays (ripped and encoded by me), to streamed movies.Pull! Bang! Darn!
And unless I called them I could not have used my Roku 'AT ALL' unless I provided payment info.
The representative told me this... she had to set up my Roku account herself for me. There is no way for the consumer to set up an account like this without calling in!!!
Anyway, I still like it for what it is but that part seriously irritated me.
I set up my account with Roku a few years ago and I didn't have to call anybody, but then again I provided them with a credit card number. It seems likely to me that a lot of your problems were that you didn't want to provide a credit card number. I know it sucks, but that's how Roku does things. I have never called anybody at Roku. You are quite right that this sucks as it is possible to use the service quite well without ever paying for anything, but if you give them a credit card number it was certainly possible to set up your account without a phone call and may still be possible for all I know.
...but if you give them a credit card number it was certainly possible to set up your account without a phone call and may still be possible for all I know.
Speaking of DRM. I bought an eBook from Amazon, I want to convert it to PDF as it's DRM protected. I have downloaded two programs, one called Calibre eBook Management that claimed it could remove DRM from Amazon ebooks, another called Epubor which also claimed it can remove the DRM from Amazon eBooks, both failed miserable. Any suggestions ?
itunes video (tv shows/ movies etc.) with zero quality loss.... and I might add with zero intention of any piracy purposes so that is Amazons loss there as I would have preferred to purchase from them.
as for manono's last comment a few months back.... I assure my credit is spotless and I'm well beyond the age of acquiring a credit card. And it is not just a fact of life these days and it was a big deal to me. There is absolutely no reason they need a credit card number from me to use their hardware. Are you going to start giving Intel that info to use their CPU's or ASUS to use one of their MOBO's? No, I don't think so. I called Roku and handled it. If they didn't then they would have simply lost a customer. I would have blown the extra money and built a HTPC before I complied to their BS just on principle.