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  1. I need some HDMI cables and wondering about cheap thin cables vs. the thicker ones with extra shielding. I've used the thicker ones in the past and they are a little harder to work with than the thinner cables and heavier too. Thicker ones often say to defend against interference. I've used thin ones before and never had a problem well as far as I could tell. Any specs I should pay attention too ? This question concerns hooking up my PC to a HDTV and also for my living room entertainment center TV/DVR/BD/player.
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  2. I always buy the cheap ones - they work perfectly. Check this out.
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  3. I've bought HDMI cables for 99 cents. They work just fine. The failure mode with HDMI is very obvious -- you get falshing pixels here and there. As it gets worse you get more sparkles. Even worse an you lose the picture completely.
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    Make sure they are high speed if you need them for 3d.
    I think,therefore i am a hamster.
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    I've been using the cheap in house cables that Amazon sells under their own name for years now and not had any problems.

    Note that we do have a small number of members who are quite adamant that the higher priced cables are better. It is possible to get cheap crap though and they have a point that their high priced cables are better than cheap junk, but not much of a point (in my opinion) if they want to argue that nobody makes a decent low priced cable.
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  6. Oh, it should be mentioned that there is a difference with very long cables. If you're running 50 feet of HDMI cable through the walls the very cheapest cables may not work, or will have little headroom for marginal equipment. Mid priced cables like those from Monoprice are recommended in that case. But again, the failure mode is pretty obvious.
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    I have used Monoprice's least expensive high-speed HDMI cables, Aurum high-speed HDMI cables, and a $10 unbranded HDMI cable from WalMart, all with no problems. These cables were all in the 3 to 6 foot range.
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    Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    The elastic threads from old socks and buttons works well too.
    Keep trying, you might get one some day ............
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    Subzero11 - sanlyn is obviously one of the people here who believes unless you spend perhaps $50 or more per cable that you're a fool. I knew he'd post to this.
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  12. Any certified by HDMI cable should meet requirements and be OK from customer perspective.
    Check if there is official HDMI logo on cable - price of cable is up to you.

    http://www.hdmi.org/installers/eyediagram.aspx
    http://www.pooraudiophile.com/2014/01/where-do-hdmi-problems-come-from-hdmi.html
    http://blog.allion.com/2014/02/allion-competitive-analysis-test-report-hdmi-cables-qua...y-performance/

    eye pattern in real life but in time domain - quite long but interesting to see how this problem is visible on scope.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx596o8t_TY
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  15. Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    If quality is question, no -- they are not all alike.
    Just check who is a REAL cable manufacturer - i hope you NOT saying that companies such as Microsoft, Nokia, Amazon making cables...
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    Originally Posted by jman98 View Post
    Subzero11 - sanlyn is obviously one of the people here who believes unless you spend perhaps $50 or more per cable that you're a fool. I knew he'd post to this.
    Yes, sanlyn likes his cables to be well-coated in snake oil by audiophile-oriented publications, and flames anyone who disagrees. Those who don't share his beliefs are blind, deaf or stupid.

    The design for an HDMI cable bought in a dollar store may not have been tested and certified, but almost anything else labeled as an HDMI cable will have passed certification. Monoprice's least expensive HDMI products are described as certified. Amazon doesn't say its Basics line is certified (at least not in the listings I have seen), but they likely are.

    All most people need to worry about for the most part when using HDMI to connect PC is that the grip on the connector is not so thick as to block the use of adjacent connections, and that the connection fits snugly enough to be secure but not so tightly that it can't be inserted or removed without using a lot of force.
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  19. For me HDMI is like Ethernet cable - twisted pair with slightly different impedance, unless eye pattern is screwed then there is no difference between cables - this is science - when symbols (bits) arriving with correct parameters then HDMI receiver turn them to series 0's and 1's, later they are descrambled to form useful data bitstream - there is no audiophile magic there - if eye pattern is sufficient to recognize 0's and 1's then HDMI quality is perfect i.e. same as sent from HDMI transmitter.
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    Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
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    Those who don't share his beliefs are blind, deaf or stupid.
    Usually, only the first of those three.

    When you've tried any of those that I recommended, tell us about it. Otherwise it's bah-humbug based on something you've read somewhere but never used yourself. The blind leading the blind isn't the kind of rec a lot of people are looking for.
    There are only a few possible reason that so many different certified HDMI cables didn't work for you. Reason one is that your equipment is faulty. There are design flaws or manufacturing defects that prevent all but a select few individual cables from making a good connection. The other possibilities are that you are either delusional or easily swayed by reviews in publications that receive advertising revenues from the brands they promote. Since you believe that at age 50+ your eyesight, hearing, and perception are greatly superior to those of everybody else who replied to the OP, I'd say that the probability that you are delusional is fairly high.
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  22. Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    See post #18.
    Not sure what are trying to say but referring to HDMI certification - if there is HDMI logo on cable (logos are provided on HDMI.org) then cable is certified - if logo is on cable which is not certified then this is fraud/scam same as 20$ Rolex ... You can express your concerns always to sales guy or to HDMI and request certificate for product. As i can understand that lot of HDMI cables is produced in China then i see no point to assume that all of them are fraud/scam.
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    There are only a few possible reason that so many different certified HDMI cables didn't work for you.
    I never said they don't work. Not only do you not see that well and will probably watch anything that shows up on a screen, you don't read that well either. See post #18
    OK, then you being delusional is the reason for rejecting the majority of the cables tested.
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  25. Originally Posted by pandy View Post
    if there is HDMI logo on cable (logos are provided on HDMI.org) then cable is certified
    As I understand it, the cable you buy at the store isn't necessarily the exact same design that was certified by hdmi.org:

    http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/testing_policies.aspx

    Once an Adopter product of each type has passed testing, it is not required to submit to the ATC subsequent products of that type.
    And:
    Successful completion of the Compliance Test Specification or ATC Testing does not guarantee that any product will conform to the High-Definition Multimedia Interfaces, function correctly or interoperate with any other product.
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  27. Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
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    Not sure what are try to say but referring to HDMI certification -
    I never mentioned certification. See post #18.
    Bad quotation and what else? Is there something specific in this post or what? (Sorry but being not English native i don't won't to misunderstood you)
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  30. Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    Qc is pretty lax, especially on the cheap stuff. I bought one at BestBuy that came apart the first time I unplugged it. Got a refund.
    Nope - check:
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    The point I've always made is that some work better than others. If you don't believe it, try it. If you don't try it, you can't say either way.
    Nope - i told you - way how HDMI works made it fall only to two categories: working/non working at all - there is no subtle tone difference in color or slightly better acoustical space - also making point that you tested something seem to be confusing - do you have HDMI approved testing solutions such as Quantum Data or Astro equipment on your desk, or you using some formalized procedure (can you share it with us?) to avoid mistakes and how you are controlled ? - by your self and/or by someone else?
    All those things are part of process named testing.
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