25p at 17 or 24mbps?

[marginal]

Hello,

I just joined this forum and I'm new dealing with cams and video. I just bought a Canon Legria hf g10 to shoot a small documentary. I read a few things and seem to have understand that 25p would be better suited to give the project a better cinema or movie look. I made some first tests and 25p combined with 1/50 gave a nice image. I need that so called "movie blurr" and was wandering what would be the better combination. 25p at 17 or 24mbps? Can you help me out?

Thanks
Nuno

[poisondeathray]

Usually for acquisition you want to use the highest bitrate possible so 24Mbps for you. In general, when everything else is the same, higher bitrates mean less quality loss or higher quality. This is important for acquisition because it only goes downhill from there (editing, color correcting, effects etc...) and re-encoding.

But higher bitrates mean larger filesizes, thus reduced recording times on fixed capacity media - that's the tradeoff

[jagabo]

The bitrate has nothing to do with "movie blur". You want long exposures for motion blur, wide apertures for depth of field.

[turk690]

...I need that so called "movie blurr" and was wandering what would be the better combination. 25p at 17 or 24mbps?...?

Maybe you mean that awesome (natch!) slight stuttering on fast motion scenes that only native film frame rate 24fps can bring, no? If so, then you'll have to settle for that 25p, at the highest bitrate that camcorder can do; close enough...
For some reason, manufacturers include 24p (native or tagged as 60i) on prosumer HD camcorders intended for NTSC areas, along with 30p and 60i that is expected (and maybe 60p nowadaze). But for PAL land, they only put 25p, 50i, perhaps 50p.

[marginal]

Thanks everybody for the help!