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    i think i might have to preform some kind of reverse telecine but not sure.
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    It's 29.97 FPS telecined (3:2 pulldown)

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    I haven't seen the sample, but if it's indeed telecined: TFM().TDecimate()
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  4. It's hard telecined so no pulldown was ever applied. But, yes, IVTC it.
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    Yes, hard telecined. MediaInfo claimed "23.97" FPS with "3:2 pulldown", but it's captured with hard-telecined frames. MediaInfo was close, but no cigar.
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    Originally Posted by manono View Post
    It's hard telecined so no pulldown was ever applied.
    Hard telecine means pulldown was applied before encoding as interlaced frames. As opposed to soft telecine where the video is encoded progressive with flags that tell the DVD player how to perform the pulldown during playback.

    Just like "hard subs" are subtitles overlaid onto the video before encoding, and "soft subs" are a separate stream of data to be overlaid to the video during playback.

    I've downloaded the video now. And yes, it's hard telecined. So TFM().TDecimate() will work and deliver 23.976 fps progressive frames.
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    TFM(order=1).TDecimate()
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  8. And I owe you an apology, sanlyn. I would have thought there was a distinction between hard telecine and progressive 23.976 with 3:2 pulldown (soft telecine). But reading up on it, there is no real distinction. They're both pulled down.
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    No problem. I had to look twice myself. Double-checking video analyzers is getting to be a habit now.
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