DVD (non HD) to Blu-Ray encode

[getaman]

Hi,
I now have achieved a fast computer with a BD burner on. I have about a hundred of DVD's with home-recorded material captured from VHS-tapes several years ago.

The VHS and DVD's are in PAL format, NON-HD DVD, just plain regular DVD's MPEG-2 encoded. Sound is Stereo MP2 encoded.

I would like to "rip" the material from the DVD's to the HDD, then encode this to Blu-Ray material and burn to BD or BDXL. I am not interested in getting a better picture or sound quality, it is most that I want to collect a lot of stuff onto a smaller place if you see my point. So please do not lecture me about this, I am aware what I am doing.

There might be field errors (wrong field order) and ghosting from bad setups through TMPGENC encoding, in case it is possible to fix it through the encoding to Blu-Ray.

I know there are a lot of so called "ripping" tools around, I am unsure about which could be best to use for this purpose though.

If you need any more info on this please let me know. I appreciate your help.

[Wolfen]

Well if they're not copy protected dvds then use Freemake Video Converter or older DVD Shrink to copy to the HDD, then you can try this multiAVCHD

[poisondeathray]

You can rip with dvd decrypter or any tool on the list since these won't be copy protected

The video should already be blu-ray compliant , but the MP2 audio needs to be re-encoded

Unless you want to re-encode the video as well ? I don't see any reason to, unless you want to compress it farther (in which case you should filter and improve it , which will also improve compressibility)

[getaman]

Isn't Bluray videos H264/262 encoded? So I thought I had to re-encode them after ripping :O

[poisondeathray]

Isn't Bluray videos H264/262 encoded? So I thought I had to re-encode them after ripping :O

blu-ray can use MPEG2, VC-1, or h264/AVC for video encoding

DVD material is already blu-ray compliant (just needs to be re-authored)

But in your case, the audio needs to be re-encoded as well

[_Al_]

One tool worth mentioning here also is DVD2BD Express ,it is free and what it does is: it transfers DVD to BDMV structure, menuis included.

So if you are good with DVD authoring you can do quick reauthoring yourself using some tools (PGCDemux, DVD Lab, avs2dvd etc., or some tools mentioned above), you can reauthor your 5-6 DVD's into one 20GB volume or so and that DVD2BD Express will transfer it to BD structure, creating BDMV folder , you literally just press a button and it automatically does it, I checked that software, liked it. Menu is not HD, it is there just for quick access into video content.

[getaman]

Alright. Thanks guys.

About the audio, what tools and format will it need to be for bluray video?

[manono]

http://www.videohelp.com/hd

[getaman]

Thanks, great info.

I was thinking if there is any way to either analyze a video for ghosting or field problems, or if it is possible to correct these problems in encoding to BD perhaps? I have downloaded the programs you mentioned and will look through them of course. I know some dvds look like ghosting or whatever it is (looks ok on tv though).

[poisondeathray]

I was thinking if there is any way to either analyze a video for ghosting or field problems, or if it is possible to correct these problems in encoding to BD perhaps? I have downloaded the programs you mentioned and will look through them of course. I know some dvds look like ghosting or whatever it is (looks ok on tv though).

If there is none in the DVD, and you're not re-encoding the video, there will be none in the BD

To analyze for field problems, the absolute best method is to use your eyes looking at separated fields (you might use avisynth's separatefields() ) . Automated detection methods are no good; they make mistakes

[getaman]

Alright I will try that out. Quite handy tool that is, avisynth.
So in case there would be a field error or ghosting on the vids, by re encoding it to BD it could be fixed? Or would I need an original source for that? Thing is, on the computer where the video was captured long ago the picture looked all fine. On TV too. It was not until I watched some on my laptop that I noticed the picture looked wierd. But if I choosed a different setting in the encoder before the picture would be wierd in the TV instead. Well that is out of the picture anyway.

[manono]

So in case there would be a field error or ghosting on the vids, by re encoding it to BD it could be fixed?

Not just by reencoding it to BD but by filtering it properly while reencoding it for BD. And that's if it can be fixed. If you think you see ghosting in your source, maybe post a sample.

Or would I need an original source for that?

Isn't the DVD you made your only source? Then it'll have to do.

[addu]

DvdNextcopy with bd will do ur job with ease and without reencoding.

[Kerry56]

If you put more than one dvd on the blu ray, DVDNextCopy will not make a menu to select each one. So it is basically useless for compilations.

MultiAVCHD will work better, if your player is compatible with its output.

I've also made oversized dvds in AVStoDVD from multiple dvd input, set up a menu, then used this as input into DVD2BD Express. This works fairly well.

[getaman]

Apparently DVDNextCopy was not free anyway. Still I dont understand if the encoding in DVDNextCopy would have gotten rid of any ghosting or field errors.

Would MultiAVCHD do this perhaps? I have not looked thoroughly in this program yet sorry.

[poisondeathray]

None of these programs automatically get rid of ghosting or field errors . They are various authoring and encoding tools

If there is a ghosting or field problem in the source, the problem will persist whether or not you re-encode or just author it. You have to do something to fix it (e.g. apply some filters or manipulations)

[getaman]

So like there is an option in TMPGEnc to remove ghosting there is no such possible way while re-encoding the video to BD to make the ghosting disappear? Will I be able to add these filters in the encoding software?

[sanlyn]

TMPGenc is an encoder (MPEG2). It takes AVI or MPEG input. You can also use its image filters and save the file as Lagarith or Huffyuv AVI.

From the discussion, it appears your video needs some cleanup. You can do that in Avisynth or VirtualDub, but you'll have to decode to lossless AVI, then re-encode. You're re-encoding anyway.

[smrpix]

Yes, if you are reencoding you can add any filters you like -- but your video is already blu-ray compliant so there is no technical necessity to reencode.

Remember a reencode always loses quality even if it seems perceptually better.

[sanlyn]

Yes, if you are reencoding you can add any filters you like -- but your video is already blu-ray compliant so there is no technical necessity to reencode.

Remember a reencode always loses quality even if it seems perceptually better.

Filter in a lossy-encoded state? The damage will be more than "perceptually" worse. It will be garbage. Period.

But the O.P. states that quality is not a consideration (should be obvious by now). So why does ghosting matter?