I have provided PROOF. Go to the myce forum and see for yourself.
Better yet download these two audio files to see for yourself. One is original with Cinavia, one is with Cinavia removed and audio quality pretty much crystal clear.
Movie30ML48K.mp3 (Original file, with Cinavia intact)
http://www.putlocker.com/file/55B31D2B59300186
New30Mb.mp3 (new file, with Cinavia removed)
http://www.putlocker.com/file/AF902E7FAD049591
(Moderator, if it is not appropriate to post links please remove them. I just wasn't sure.)
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Been coming here for years for advice. Finally wanted to share some.
My best way around cinavia is get an older bluray player.
I picked up an Insignia NS-WBRDVD2 on ebay for less than $50. Region free dvd/BD and plays just about any format I can download. (sometimes I run into an odd codec) Not the best quality, but will play anything. I never hooked this up to the internet for an upgrade. Doing so will change the firmware and disable the region free option. Not sure about the cinavia protection, but I don't really care. I have an LG 3D BD player for all the discs I buy.
Earlier this year I finally bought an hdtv. An LG-47G2. (got it on clearance. I'm not rich.)
Every video I download to a portable hard drive, hook this up via usb to the tv and it plays everything.
These are my workarounds to copyright protection. Easy and fast. No more hours spent on the pc trying to crack bullshit protection.
I made my brother some bd data discs and he is not able to play cinavia encrypted files on his PS3. Keeps bitching to me. Not my problem. I told him what I do that works for me.
Sure, I'd love to see cinavia finally get cracked so everything can play everything.
Sites like Yify Torrents are great for the mainstream crap and kids movies, but most of the stuff I buy rarely ends up on the P2Ps or I really want the disc for superior audio and all of the extras.
Thank you
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You're joking right? That sounds marginally better than some of the earlier attempts I've heard but randomly removing and duplicating ~15ms chunks of audio still makes the music sound terrible. Double drum beats, missing drum beats etc. Everyone knows you can "mask" Cinavia by horribly distorting the audio.
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I have this player too and it's region free. Yes, you are right that updating the firmware will remove region free capability but unless things have changed since I last tested it, this player does allow you to downgrade firmware back to region free mode. It does not recognize Cinavia if it's got the region free firmware, but on the downside (for me at least) it also does not recognize BD-R LTH discs in this mode. Can't have everything I suppose.
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Originally Posted by jman98
Nor an impossible one, either. Improbable perhaps. As has been noted before, devoting the kind of resources and effort required to actually accomplish this is unlikely to be justified by the financial upside of doing it. Especially when you consider that it will have to come out of somewhere like Russia or China, that is litigation-proof.When in Las Vegas, don't miss the Pinball Hall of Fame Museum http://www.pinballmuseum.org/ -- with over 150 tables from 6+ decades of this quintessentially American art form.
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Anyone know how to do that in Audacity...or any program for that matter...just to kill some time.
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I've already told you what he's done. You can look at the before and after waveforms and it's pretty obvious. I can't verify that it makes Cinavia undetectable (or even that the source contains Cinavia) because I don't have anything to test it with.
Last edited by jagabo; 27th Nov 2013 at 17:45.
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I have a good idea...why not point out what software can be used to duplicate what hes done. Some instructions would be nice, so we can test it. And I will personally verify it. And you will get all the credits.
P.S. FYI this individual has no plans to tells us how its done....his plans are to code a Cinavia removal app. And its not guaranteed to be free.
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You can do the basic cut/past operations with any audio editor ( I used Audacity to examine the supplied MP3 files). Of course it will take you forever to do this to an entire movie by hand, or even a 25 minute sample. I'm not aware of any software that does this exact type of operation automatically. But I don't do a lot of audio editing -- so there may be an editor with scripting capabilities that could be used. Or maybe you could mix in lots of heavy clicks and pops then use a smart click/pop removal filter, or a process something like that.
Note that Cienoway doesn't just cut/paste at completely random locations -- that would cause clicks at many of the cuts. He probably looks for zero crossings or wave peaks to minimize discontinuities. And probably looks for repetitive waveforms that can be shortened or lengthened by a few cycles. And at silent stretches where bits can be removed or duplicated without harming the quality. Maybe he does a little smoothing at the cuts too.Last edited by jagabo; 27th Nov 2013 at 21:04.
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I came across "Variable Duration Silent generator & another one called Silence Finder / Generator" plugins for Audacity...do you think they would be useful at all? And also Frequency smoothing?
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I doubt it. You'll probably have to write your own program. And you'll want that Cinavia file that triggers Cinavia detection within seconds so you'll have a much faster turnaround time. Having to wait 20 minutes to test each variation of your method means it will take you forever to zero in on what works.
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I am gonna tell you something you likely didn't know about the Cinavia detection in the PS3/Bluray players....when the 20 minute grace period has reached, the console will start muting without no grace period remorse. An example is....lets say you stop playback after the warning has displayed and comeback an hour later...the warning will continue to display instantly without grace period. This occurs until 5 hours has elapsed. Within the 5 hours it allows an opportunity to probe the device for Cinavia.
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On Nov. 12, 2013, a user by the name Cienoway claims to have invented a simple method to cleanly remove Cinavia with no noticeable audio quality degradation.[16] On Nov. 24, 2013, someone by the name MacroVision3500 confirmed that the Cinavia break indeed works.[17] Cienoway also provided two 30 minutes audio clips for people to confirm, a cinavia embedded original[18] and a Cinavia removed new file.[19]
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Cienoway uploaded two files here
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/353091-How-to-remove-Cinavia-protection?p=2283946&v...=1#post2283946
and his Cinavia removal, though better then earlier attempts, is far from "no noticeable audio quality degradation".
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I came across a plugin for Audacity that seems promising called
"Random Pitch Modulation" it changes the audio pitch every second at random...which causes the watermark to struggle. I believe with some fine tuning I could get lucky. You can use ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre 6 which can be used to verify Cinavia infected titles. No need for a BD player or PS3.
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