Hi. I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question, but here is the issue: I just used BD-Rebuilder to backup a Blu-ray. I set it to backup movie and menus and to auto blank extras. There was no transcoding as the custom size was set to 50000. The problem with the BD-RE is that the english subtitles are on all the time and cannot be turned off. I did some googling about this problem and after some searching I wonder if there was a setting that forced this subtitle or put a forced captions flag on the subtitle. I just want the english subtitle on the disc, but I want control of turning the subtitle on or off. Thanks for your help in advance.
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It might help if you gave the title of the disc. This could be checked against a list of known discs with forced or hardcoded subs. Or someone here might have the disc and can check. If the subs are hardcoded in the original, then nothing is amiss.
When you say the subtitle track in question can't be turned off, I presume you mean by your standalone player? That would lead one to think the subs are hardcoded. But perhaps it's just a complex disc that didn't get re-mapped properly. Is your backup okay in all other respects?
On the off chance that this is indeed a case of your subtitle stream being inadvertently turned on and for some reason can't be turned off (though I can't think why), try this:
1) Copy your completed disc back to hard drive somewhere.
2) Open BDEdit and navigate to the BDMV folder and click "Read".
3) Stay under the BDMV tab and look at the lower right-hand pane.
4) Does it have a line that says: "SetStream (GPR0), GPR1, (GPR0), GPR0", or similar?
5) If so, highlight that line and check the values in the boxes lower down in the pane. Do they look something like this:
The number 49153 refers to first subtitle stream, 49154 would refer to second subtitle stream, and so on.
6) If so, highlight the line and click the "-" (minus) button on the right. That will delete the command that turned the subtitle to default on.
7) Save and exit.Pull! Bang! Darn!
The movie is Avatar. It is a 46GB Blu-ray that has 3 movie versions as an option. I wanted to remove all warnings (FBI etc...) and remove some unnecessary languages and subtitles in foreign languages so the movie could fit on a 50gb BD-RE. Apparently, BD-Rebuilder removed all foreign language subtitles but kept English. The BD-RE that I burned has the subtitles on all the time on my Sony Blu-Ray player and also on Arcsoft Totalmedia Theatre. Do you want me to copy back to the hard drive the BD-RE that I burned from my BD-Rebuilder project and then open it again in BD-Rebuilder to check "Setstream"?
Avatar supposedly has forced English subtitles when "Navi" is spoken. And that movie is on this list:
You need to be more specific. Are the subtitles you object to only when the foreign language (Navi) is spoken? That is as intended. Or is it the primary English subtitle track in toto being displayed, and not just the embedded forced subs?
When you did your backup, did you include all English subtitles, or just the first sub track? BDRB is not completely reliable for handling forced subs correctly. Again, assuming it's not a matter of the forced subs only, I'd try doing the backup over, keeping all subs.
I don't have that movie, so maybe someone who has backed it up will comment. I recall Avatar and forced subs being discussed here before, you might do a search. So will I.Pull! Bang! Darn!
The english subtitles show when english is spoken (The entire movie). On the Main menu, I go under setup and select subtitles off, the english subtitle is still displayed on the screen. I believe BD-RB just kept one English subtitle which I guess would be the first sub track.
BDRB has been known to also misbehave, but in a different way, when deselecting audio and subtitle streams. If you got rid of any language and/or subtitle streams, it might be interesting to repeat using BDRB but leave them all selected and see if that output behaves normally.
The only reason I am deselecting the subtitles is so the finished result will be able to fit on a 50gb BD-RE. Here's a little history. I want to backup Avatar Blu-Ray, and also remove fbi warnings and intros etc. So I used multiAVCHD to first do this. I was able to find and blank the warnings and intros. I then saved it to a Blu-Ray format and tried to burn it to my 50gb BD-RE, but it said the project was too big for the Disc space (48gb free space needed vs. 47gb capacity on BD-RE). So I then reopened the project and manually removed all the foreign languages and foreign subtitles and tried to save it to BDMV folder but it took for hours and whatever was being saved took up over 135gb of free disc space and I was down to 2gb free space and so I just stopped it. I then used BD-Rebuilder and did what was aforementioned in the first part of this thread.
That's the only thing I can think of:
Have a do-over and keep *all* subtitle tracks.
I did a little poking around and didn't come up with anything.
If you were doing movie-only there would be no serious problem. Forced subs could be extracted separately. Then remux forced and normal subs into main movie and turn the extracted subs to default *ON* with BDEdit. As I recall, I did that with Iron Man, no problem.
As an alternative, demux and extract the forced subs (BDSup2Sub) and hardcode the extracted forced subs with, say, Ripbot. The track in which they were embedded would have to be edited to remove the forced subs, so as not to conflict, if you wanted to mux them in as selectable.Pull! Bang! Darn!
multiAVCHD hasn't been updated in a long time and was always a bit touchy. Why are you being so stingy with information?
I'd use BDRB only. Add ENABLE_TEST=1 to the config file and do your blanking with BDRB, keeping all subs. Subtitle tracks are nearly negligible in size anyway. Or use Clown_BD_BD_Copier.Pull! Bang! Darn!
I don't understand what you meant by being stingy with information. What information? If the subtitles are negligible in size then can I keep all the subtitles but remove the languages other than english. I believe the languages are bigger in size and should get me down about 2gb so I can fit it on the BD-RE, right?
You see, commercial BD discs cannot hold more than 50 GB. So once you rip the disc, the rip is GOOD TO GO with NO CHANGES at all needed. NONE. Think about that. If you burn your rip exactly as it is with no processing, your disc will work fine.
Now if you are stubborn and unreasonable and unable to understand what I just told you and hell bound to process the file anyway, even though there is no reason at all to do so, not much we can do to help you buddy. I just told you what will work. Either you do it or you don't. If you are hellbound on removing the warnings, which I do not recommend as it just introduces more potential for problems as you see, again, not much we can do to help you. Again - you have been told what WILL work. You deviate from that at your own risk.
I am not deviating from what your recommendations were and am not being stubborn. Obviously, what you just said is basic 3rd grade math. But when I used imgburn to burn the iso, it said that the total folder/file size to backup is over 48gb and the available space on a Verbatim 50gb BD-RE is 47gb and change, therefore it won't fit. There is no logic in this at all, but for some reason 50gb discs really have a 47gb capacity, according to some threads I found by googling this.
BDRB. That is more likely to have produced your odd result than BDRB, because it's notorious for requiring some testing of settings to be sure one's player will accept its output. Just to make it perfectly clear, I think it's likely multiAVCHD broke your disc structure.
Because you wasted my time making me guess. I'm done.Pull! Bang! Darn!
The folder I processed with BDRB was not processed first with multiAVCHD . I processed a fresh folder that I ripped with AnyDVD. I also took the advice and tried it again, this time backing up the whole movie and menu. This time it was finally a success. I guess that even with a full movie and menu backup, the warnings were still removed because the Avatar BD-RE went directly to the menu. Thanks to those that were helpful. fritzi93, I am sorry your time was wasted. If you didn't jump to the conclusions you did, perhaps you wouldn't have gotten so flustered. I do appreciate your help, but if you are going to help people, do it without judgement and expectations, and certainly do it because you want to in fact help somebody