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    Yes, I realise this question is asked a million times - but it's sort of a split question so I'm unsure where to ask it.

    The obvious issue with Sony Vegas (In my case 11) being unable to read .mp4 is pretty common. But I recall having fixed it previously - and the .mp4 files I render can also be imported just fine into Sony Vegas.

    My issue is that I downloaded some footage from own3d, from a livestream, that I wish to turn into a movie. But Sony Vegas refuses to accept it, no matter what I do.

    I downloaded AVICodec as suggested on many sites - and was quite shocked to realise that it detected 0 V.codecs on the .mp4 file.

    This lead me to believe it might be a flash file? In a .mp4? I don't know enough about this - and thought I'd ask if anyone here had any suggestions on how to proceed with this.

    Here's a screenshot of one of the clips in AVIcodec:


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    Avicodec hasn't been updated in 6 years. Use mediainfo instead. It's probably h264 video.
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    Originally Posted by Baldrick View Post
    Avicodec hasn't been updated in 6 years. Use mediainfo instead. It's probably h264 video.
    Hey Baldrick! Thank you for the quick reply, truly appreciated.

    I downloaded the new program, and this is what I got:


    So was I right, flash in a .mp4 format? Not entirely sure what the AVC is.

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    AVC is H264 = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC


    It's probably made with adobe flash encoder.
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    Originally Posted by Baldrick View Post
    AVC is H264 = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC


    It's probably made with adobe flash encoder.
    Hmm, that does seem like something a big site such as own3d.com might use.

    I'm guessing there's no possible way to get a "codec" or such that would allow Sony Vegas 11 to recognize that?

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    if it's not too large upload it so it can be looked at. i downloaded a couple from there and they work in vegas ok. they use variable frame rate so audio sync is a problem. you might use something like mediacoder to encode the video to a lossless format constant framerate video first and use that in vegas.

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    Originally Posted by aedipuss View Post
    if it's not too large upload it so it can be looked at. i downloaded a couple from there and they work in vegas ok. they use variable frame rate so audio sync is a problem. you might use something like mediacoder to encode the video to a lossless format constant framerate video first and use that in vegas.
    They are pretty large 1 hour long ones.

    But it looks like you can drag/drop the .mp4 files into your Sony Vegas? So there's hope... something is just wrong... I wonder what. I get the standard "None of the files dropped on Vegas Pro could be opened." or the "Warning: An error occurred while opening one or more files. The file is most likely corrupted or of an unknown format." when trying to directly import it.

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    can vlc play the videos without any problems? can you open them in other encoders like mediacoder? here's a tool to make cut a small piece and upload here. try for about 50mb.
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    Originally Posted by aedipuss View Post
    can vlc play the videos without any problems? can you open them in other encoders like mediacoder? here's a tool to make cut a small piece and upload here. try for about 50mb.
    Yes, VLC has no issues with either sound or image. It looks perfect to me. MediaCoder has no issues seeing the file - "State: Ready - Type: MPEG-4 Video" Video: H.264, encoder: x264 etc etc.

    I think I attached a file? Not sure hehe.

    Thanks for the effort! Both!

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    it seems corrupt and crashes some programs but mediacoder will accept it. i converted to huffyuv lossless and can import to vegas. only problem is your 30mb sample converts to 1.6gb. you could choose some other codec to convert to.

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    Hey Aedipuss,

    Well my options are quite limited because I need the files to be somewhat compressed like this - or the 5-7 hours of footage I have will take up more space than available at microsoft.

    Didn't you download a clip from own3d and have it working just fine? What exactly did you do? Maybe I can re-download it in a different way than what I did. I downloaded it from http://savevideo.me/ (If it says temporary down, try again. Site is under stress).

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    i used download helper in firefox to get the file. it wasn't a live stream if that's what you got. you can use mediacoder to re-encode to h264 with lc-aac. use cq of about 20 and the file will be about twice as big but you shouldn't lose much in the way of video quality. and the new mp4 is usable in vegas.
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    Download 3 movies from own3d and open in Movie Studio Platinum 12. Normal play and edit.

    Try install updated FFDSHOW or LAV filters.




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    Originally Posted by Cauptain View Post
    Download 3 movies from own3d and open in Movie Studio Platinum 12. Normal play and edit.

    Try install updated FFDSHOW or LAV filters.




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    did you download the sample he posted. it doesn't open in vegas.
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    Originally Posted by aedipuss View Post
    did you download the sample he posted. it doesn't open in vegas.
    Hey, sorry for the slow reply. I tried using the DownloadHelper (Already had it but forgot, doh) - and the file gives the same error. Seeing as it works in your Sony Vegas (Btw, I noticed it was Sony Vegas Pro 10 I have, and not 11) and not in mine - I've concluded, as the bright Sherlock Holmes I am, that I need to do some kind of a tweak to my Sony Vegas.

    Is there anything you could tell me about your Sony Vegas, codecs etc - that might help me get it to work? I have Quick Time installed - even tried installing an older version. Also tried installing K-lite etc.

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    did you try opening the new mp4 i uploaded into vegas 10? it works fine here in vegas pro10, 11, and 12. (all 64 bit)

    try installing ffdshow. if your vegas is 32 bit use the 32bit version, if 64bit get that one.

    codec packs work for some but totally trash other systems. i've never used one or recommended them.
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    Originally Posted by aedipuss View Post
    did you try opening the new mp4 i uploaded into vegas 10? it works fine here in vegas pro10, 11, and 12. (all 64 bit)

    try installing ffdshow. if your vegas is 32 bit use the 32bit version, if 64bit get that one.

    codec packs work for some but totally trash other systems. i've never used one or recommended them.
    The one you had re-compressed works yes. Still doesn't explain why you can open the same footage that I can't from own3d . I don't wish to re-compress 5:30 hours of footage with 2x the size and a possible loss in quality if I can avoid it.

    I'm pretty sure there's ffdshow in k-lite, no? I'll try installing the it non the less, I'm using 64 bit version.

    Thanks! I'll report back with the results soon.

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    I downloaded and installed it - and I still get the same error. This is quite the nuisance.

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    here's what i downloaded from the site that vegas opens here. see if your vegas will accept it.
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    Originally Posted by aedipuss View Post
    here's what i downloaded from the site that vegas opens here. see if your vegas will accept it.
    Won't . Something in my Vegas is missing to accept those files.
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  20. What you might try to do is get MP4CAM2AVI and just wrap that mp4 into avi container without reencoding or maybe you can just set to reencode audio to PCM for better compatibility. I have Vegas 8 and Vegas opens those files through ffdshow.
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    Originally Posted by _Al_ View Post
    What you might try to do is get MP4CAM2AVI and just wrap that mp4 into avi container without reencoding or maybe you can just set to reencode audio to PCM for better compatibility. I have Vegas 8 and Vegas opens those files through ffdshow.
    To avoid future issues I really wish I could just make my Sony Vegas compatible with the own3d footage - like Aedipuss's Sony Vegas is. Could you tell me what you've got installed/done on your Sony Vegas Aedipuss? Thx!

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    Originally Posted by aedipuss View Post

    did you download the sample he posted. it doesn't open in vegas.
    Using My MP4Box GUI to demux and mux again (40 seconds only), video work in Vegas, audio no. Only use audio demuxed to work hehehe.

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    maybe install quicktime? quicktime alternative should work.
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    Originally Posted by aedipuss View Post
    maybe install quicktime? quicktime alternative should work.
    Originally Posted by lindenkron View Post
    Is there anything you could tell me about your Sony Vegas, codecs etc - that might help me get it to work? I have Quick Time installed - even tried installing an older version. Also tried installing K-lite etc.
    I've tried installing Quicktime - Uninstalling it, re-installing it - installing older recommended versions and normal/pro ones. Nothing seem to make a difference...

    Do I need to reboot after installations?

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    try qt alternative and yes then reboot.
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    another thing to install is haali media splitter and maybe the x264vfw
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    Originally Posted by aedipuss View Post
    another thing to install is haali media splitter and maybe the x264vfw
    I'll try rebooting in a sec, I already have the x264vfw installed (I can see it under my .avi compressing options in Sony Vegas).

    What is the Haali media splitter?

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    Edit: Didn't work, to reboot. Made no difference
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    haali helps decode video. that's about all i can come up with. other than the codec pack screwing up the system.
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  29. Vegas doesn't use haali, or any system installed directshow codecs or filters

    for some types of "AVI" container wrapped files, some versions can use VFW installed codecs.


    Depending on the type of mp4 container, and version of vegas, it might use quicktime or it's internal mainconcept mp4 demuxer & decoder

    if you right click the clip and look that the properties it will tell you what is being used (which .dll is being used)
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    Originally Posted by poisondeathray View Post
    Vegas doesn't use haali, or any system installed directshow codecs or filters

    for some types of "AVI" container wrapped files, some versions can use VFW installed codecs.


    Depending on the type of mp4 container, and version of vegas, it might use quicktime or it's internal mainconcept mp4 demuxer & decoder

    if you right click the clip and look that the properties it will tell you what is being used (which .dll is being used)
    Right click the actual .mp4 clip in the folder? Doesn't give me any viable information. "Name, elementtype, path, size, creation date, change date" etc. There's nothing about any .dll's under "Properties -> Details" (Or any other place for that matter.)

    Could you specify where you want me to look?

    Thanks a lot everyone!
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