Mmmm... I m not used to using scripts. Really, is my approach so awkward? With all the tons of free software out there isnīt there really nothing to do these type of things directly with ONE single program for each specific task? A program to burn subtitles, a program to upscale, etc...
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It's up to you whether or not you want to "jump through hoops" or take shortcuts. But if you want to learn, you have to take some initiative and read the guides. No one is going to spoon feed you. If you have specific questions, sure people will help you out.
You said earlier that the youtube result was ok and subs were legible, so why not stick with that?
Youtube is one of the very few cases in the video world where upscaling actually makes a visible difference (due to the reasons mentioned earlier with how youtube handles low def videos, not because of "upscaling" algorithm reasons). I can post some examples later if you want
But if you do a poor upscale, it can actually make things look worse. Image becomes riddled with aliasing (jaggy blocky edges ), and is actually harder to compress for youtube. I can post some examples later too if you want -
What I mean is: why doing things in a complicated way if you can do it simpler. Simpler and quicker, is better. For example, I am trying to upscale with this program Video Enhancer. Ever heard of it? But I am not sure about how to set the settings..
I prefer not to use the 320x240 on Youtube because I donīt like the black lateral bands... -
It's really not that complicated once you know the basics. If you're new to it , yes it can be confusing
Why do things this way? Because the quality is better, the results are better.
Video Enhancer is not bad, I mentioned it to you in an earlier post. It's probably easier for you to use.
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/347013-SIMPLE-and-REAL-way-to-add-subtitles-to-an-M...=1#post2169239
I prefer not to use the 320x240 on Youtube because I donīt like the black lateral bands...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillarbox -
Thanks for your patience with a stubborn newbie like me...
Itīs not that I am lazy to learn, just that I am very busy with work really and I shouldnīt even be trying to do this. I am not intending to be a professional video creator. Itīs just that I need some video samples and I wanted them to be rather good.
About the pillarboxing, do you mean that if I manage to get a video using the whole frame and not letting any lateral bands, it will be deformed? -
The video window in youtube is always 16:9 , whether you view it on youtube, or embed on a webpage elsewhere like a blog.
Think of it as a rectangular window. You can't change the window - it's always rectangle. But you are viewing a "square" (it's not really a square it's 4:3) within that window - it doesn't fit perfectly
View the pictures in this post: they show you how you can distort the image to fill the rectangular 16:9 window . Most people don't want to distort or lose active pixels
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/346422-Cannot-change-a-video-s-display-aspect-ratio...=1#post2164391
If you use your own host (not youtube), then you can change that window to a custom size and dimension. You can make it exactly 320x240 if you wanted to. Or 640x480 etc... -
What about this idea?
If I just use my 320x240 videos and put up with Youtube showing the black lateral lines, BUT I set MY blog to show them like 320x240, without lateral bands? Any idea if you can customize Wordpress to do that with videos? -
Not possible with youtube. Even if you have a paid account with them. (or at least I don't know of any way to do it with youtube)
They reencode all videos to 16:9 dimensions. You can change the size of the player, but they will always be a multiple of 16:9 eg. 854x480, 1280x720 etc... So you will always get pillarbox when viewing a 4:3 source -
You mean that even if I see the videos directly from my blog and not going to Youtube I will still see the black lateral lines?
In that case, I will try the video enhancer. -
It has nothing to do with video enhancer.
Youtube (the service provider), re-encodes all videos with 16:9 aspect ratio. Thus all 4:3 videos will be pillarboxed. Youtube embedded players (even the custom ones) are always 16:9
If you use your own host $, then you can make the player whatever aspect ratio and dimensions you want . Upscaling isn't as important either, because you can host the video you want (provided its' a streaming format) . The whole point about upscaling was to "trick" youtube into using higher bitrates and better compression . If you use your own host, you don't incur that 2nd re-encoding -
OK, I wanted to do the upscaling because I prefer the videos to be bigger and because I donīt have a paid host.
The whole point about upscaling was to "trick" youtube into using higher bitrates and better compression . Thatīs why it would be interesting to do it...
Bad news about Video Enhancer. Even if I try the "simple" setting it has, the program doesnīt seem to do anything at all. It looks stuck. I was seeing some posts at VideoHelp saying that it may take like 4 hrs to go through 160 seconds of video with this program!!!
Can you please tell me if thatīs the case? I am using the simple and the quick configuration (time quicker, and worse quality). And even like that it seems not to be working.Last edited by Valerc; 21st Jun 2012 at 19:22.
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Speed will depend on your hardware specs. The post you were referring to was probably old. It shouldn't take 4 hours for 160 seconds on a modern computer. Maybe a few minutes at most , especially since your source is only 320x240
I don't know why it's not working for you -
It does absolutely nothing. I have tried it like 6 times already, changing the configuration each time, and ALL it does is creating a small 80 k avi file each time. Always the same tiny size, and it looks like stuck and there are not signs itīs actually doing anything.
I canīt believe my bad luck!!! -
They're all pillarboxed, yes, but that's been added by the player. They don't reencode 1.33:1 videos as 1.78:1 by adding the pillarbars. Nor do they even honor DARs, as far as I know, because any 720x480 VOB or MPEG uploaded keeps the same 1.5:1 ratio. Just to make sure nothing had changed very recently, I downloaded one of mine that had been uploaded as a 640x480 XviD AVI and ran it through MediaInfo:
Code:General Complete name : E:\Test\flaA6CC.flv Format : Flash Video File size : 13.1 MiB Duration : 2mn 41s Overall bit rate : 682 Kbps starttime : 0.000 totalduration : 161.745 totaldatarate : 680.969 bytelength : 13780836.000 canseekontime : Yes sourcedata : B4A7DD7E3MM1340322831148433 httphostheader : o-o.preferred.lax04t07.v3.cache8.c.youtube.com Video Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : Main@L3.0 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@3.0 Duration : 2mn 41s Bit rate : 545 Kbps Width : 640 pixels Height : 480 pixels Display aspect ratio : 4/3 Frame rate mode : Variable Frame rate : 23.976 fps Resolution : 24 bits Colorimetry : 4:2:0 Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.074 Audio Format : AAC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Format version : Version 4 Format profile : LC Format settings, SBR : No Duration : 2mn 41s Bit rate : 129 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel positions : L R Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz Resolution : 16 bits
Last edited by manono; 21st Jun 2012 at 20:16.
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Ahh my bad - thanks for the correction manono
But the embedded youtube player is always 16:9 AFAIK, I've never seen a custom 4:3 player for youtube
Actually I'm wrong again! Apparently you can use a 4:3 player . So that should solve your pillarbox issue
http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=178264
It is meant for users, partners and advertisers. -
Hehe, I saw your response before you added in the edit, and was on the hunt for some 4:3 players I know I've seen before. But by the time I hit the button to quote you in my response, you had already corrected yourself.
It's hard to keep up with what YouTube allows sometimes, and the changes it makes, because things change all the time.
Yes, 'users' are us regular people. -
Thanks manono... Iīm "her", not "his", by the way...
Unfortunately the Video Enhancer is not working for me.... (( So, no upscaling up to now. -
Nah it was probably always available, and I didn't know about it. Or the sites I see all use 16:9 content
So if my math is correct , a 640x480 video would use 640x505 embed size (for the 25 pixels)
I did do some tests right now, and the difference is there, but it's not as large as it used to be. (There used to be a HUGE difference) . The 320x240 video actually uses h.264 now (the wikipedia page is incorrect - the old VP6 videos were basically unwatchable) , but only baseline profile (no cabac, no b-frames, 1 reference frame) . The 640x480 gets main profile (cabac + b-frames, 3 reference frames) . The audio isn't as bad as it used to be either, it's still 44.1Khz for both (they used to reduce it to 22.05Khz) - but 129Kb/s vs 96kb/s .
This is from the default youtube viewer (640x360 + 25 pixels I think)
320x240 video "as is"
http://youtu.be/ffJjeJ8_vKc
320x240 video upscaled to 640x480 with nnedi3 and lsfmod
http://youtu.be/uxRkqgJ6xJg
Mediainfo of the downloaded videos from Youtube
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L1.3
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 16s 515ms
Bit rate : 274 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 381 Kbps
Width : 320 pixels
Height : 240 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.119
Stream size : 552 KiB (73%)
Tagged date : UTC 2012-06-20 01:17:54
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 16s 508ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 96.0 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 111 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 193 KiB (26%)
Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 7
Duration : 16s 516ms
Bit rate : 766 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.083
Stream size : 1.51 MiB (85%)
Audio
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 10
Duration : 16s 695ms
Bit rate : 129 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 262 KiB (14%)
Last edited by poisondeathray; 21st Jun 2012 at 20:37.
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Itīs great to see this test,poisondeathray. Thanks so much! I only notice a difference in focus, like the upscaled picture is more clear. But the lateral bands are the same. Sooo, if my original is clear it seems that I would get nothing with the upscaling in terms of size.
However, what still is a problem is that the video looks laterally comprised, images are taller and thiner than the original.
Do you think that if I do the process of adding the .srt subtitles to the video once more with the AutoGK, but I place a larger width than the original (for example 360 instead of 320), could that compensate the "thinness" of the images I am getting?
I think that is similar to the idea manono proposed when using AutoGK with a fixed width of 640.Last edited by Valerc; 22nd Jun 2012 at 09:48.
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