I'm going to use video in an internet-based subscription service. There are significant license fees owed to MPEG LA when you have a large subscriber base and use any of these: MPEG-2, ATSC, AVC / H.264, MVC, VC1, MPEG-4 Visual, MPEG-2 Systems, 1394 and MPEG-4 Systems.
I'm looking for an alternative that can be produced by Final Cut Pro X, some of which are listed here:
Can anyone provide advice on which of these would produce high quality video/audio on the internet when used with the common browsers (MSIE, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera) and have reasonable file sizes (through compression or otherwise)?
- Broadcast Wave Format.
- DV, DVCAM, DVCPRO, DVCPRO 50, and DVCPRO HD.
- Uncompressed 8- and 10-bit SD and HD.
- Apple Intermediate Codec.
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None in your list is suitable for streaming with browsers
Broadcast wave is audio only format
DV, DVCAM, DVCPRO, DVCPRO 50, and DVCPRO HD. are interframe formats, and not suitable for streaming (large filesize, poor compression), and no platform supports them for streaming in browsers
HDV is MPEG2 based and would require a license. (besides, MPEG2 is very poor for comrpession , not suitable for streaming, not supported by browsers either)
Uncompressed and AIC are not suitable either, filesizes are too large, and not supported by browsers either
The only semi viable alternative is Google's WebM, but requires HTML5, which reduces your audience substantially
You probably have to bite the bullet and pay the fees for AVC/h.264
I concur with poisondeathray. WebM (VP8) is your only viable alternative. The good news is it's gaining ground as people update their browsers.
bad news (regarding VP8): it's not even on MPEG-4 ASP level
WMV might be an alternative,... (but it requires plugins on all systems)
-> at this current point in time I too would recommend to use AVC/H.264 + aac
OK - looks like there really isn't an alternative now... maybe in the future.
Thanks to all for your suggestions.
Originally Posted by selurDonatello - The Shredder? Michelangelo - Maybe all that hardware is for making coleslaw?
you are probably right there,.. (haven't used IE for quite some time,..)
windows media player window. Since I don't regularly use internet explorer anymore I'm assuming thats built into the browser.
Could be wrong but it was there.Donatello - The Shredder? Michelangelo - Maybe all that hardware is for making coleslaw?
If you are seeing results out of WEBM that aren't great ( comparable to what you get from 264 ) please post it as a bug here: http://code.google.com/p/webm/issues/entry
and include all the information you used to produce the bad results.
Engineering Manager - WebM Project
Last edited by jimbankoski; 10th Apr 2012 at 09:25.
By the way, is Google going to indemnify all the VP8 users when it's found to violate MPEG LA's patents?
Last edited by jagabo; 10th Apr 2012 at 10:26.