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    Hello.
    I have some realy old vhs homevideos that i have capture in to my computer.

    The files is in .ts right now.

    Ive added 2 samples from 2 places in the vid with i converted to avi with doing anything els to it...

    Im thinking of using virtualdub, but which filter and setting can you recommend... As you can see the color and all are horrible right now
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  3. Why are your samples 1920x1080, 29.97 fps, and not interlaced? You need to capture at standard definition resolution (720x480 29.97i FPS NTSC, 720x576 25i FPS PAL) to have any hope of a real cleanup. Does the tape have the same blown out brights and automatic gain problems? Or was that introduced during capture? This looks like second or third generation tape to me. Can you get the original recording?
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    Hey Guys..

    The VHS tape is the only thing i have... Its realy bad quality i know that, but its a recording thats els lost in time.. So this i what i got...

    Its captured with Hauppauge PVR-500 card... And the original cap is in .ts

    But i didnt know how to make bits of .ts and upload for you so i convertet parts of it to avi to upload.. I still have all .ts file laying...

    Its caped i 4:3 and the VCR is a good one from Phillips.. But again realy realy old recording so thats why it looks like it dos... There is another recording on the VHS tape thats must better.. But this one is oneofakind and i just wanna make it look as good as it can
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    Ohh and its caped in WINtv (something also recommended in the http://www.digitalfaq.com/guides/video.htm)
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    You can cut .ts files with videoredo or mpeg video wizard (womble) both have trials
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    Thx master....

    Ive used
    MPEG Video Wizard DVD




    And its cut section so i think its done with out lose???


    But here is 2 new clip in from the original stream
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    Well it's not gonna be easy to enhance this i can tell you that! Priority number 1 reduce the contrast when you capture by i'd say -1 or 2 units (assuming you record with a default contrast of 0)
    Msu old color's virtualdub filter seems to be a good starting point (color shift=16, auto levels accuracy= 2) but there is more work to be done
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    I dont think i kan change how i cap in wintv??? and havent found any other programs that works with PVR-500
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    The old color thing i had found in virtualdub and had it on 16 and 0 in accuracy..
    What els do you recommend ?
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  12. WinTV has proc amp controls (brightness, contrast, saturation, hue, sharpness) that may or may not help. Search through the options, you'll find them.
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    There are no such options in my wintv.... just check again
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    Ive heard about a Hauppauge Tweak tool, but i cant find it anywhere... All links goes to dead page
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  16. Not the tweak tool. It's built in to WinTV.
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  17. Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    I'm unable to create an index file with DGAVCIndex on the .ts files submitted.
    They're MPEG 2. Use DgIndex.
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    Sanlyn i havent tried playing them to the tv yet... Would clean them up before burning them
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    Ive now found the settings for my card.

    Can only help me set it correctly???

    Brightness : range -128 to 128 >>> Current Setting 0
    Contrast: range 0 to 255 >>> Current Setting 128
    Saturation: range 0 to 255 >>> Current Setting 128
    Hue : range -128 to 128 >>> Current Setting 0
    Sharpness: range - 0 to 7 >>> Current Setting 5 (Its says: for a clean source a high value is useless. for noisy sources lower setting are better:

    Static Filter
    This setting changes the Temporal filtering / motion blur
    Range 0-31 >>> Current Setting 8

    Static Spatial Filter
    This setting changes the Spatial filtering
    Range 0-15 >>> Current setting 0

    So whats the ideel settings ?
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    themaster says reduce contrast -1 -2 units, so i get contrast setting should change from 128 to 126 ?
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  23. The ideal settings vary depending on your source. The first thing you need to do is change the brightness and contrast settings so that the bright areas are not totally obliterated like they are now. Using a frame from your video that's not blown out:

    Here are blown out brights like you are getting in most of your clip:

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    Details in those very bright areas in the woman's face can't be restored when they're way too bright like this. You can darken the image but the blown out areas still won't have any detail:

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    Ideally, you want your caps to look more like this:

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    Now there are details to work with in the bright areas of the woman's face. The darker areas are getting close to black. The brighter areas aren't blown out.

    It's possible that the bright areas are already blown out on the video tape. If that's the case adjusting the proc amp controls may not help. That's why people have been asking if the tape looks the same when watched on TV.
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    Its bad on the tv, but not as bad as this... But i have a 50 inc tv so everything this old looks bad there )
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    But what do you suggest i change the settings to ?
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  26. I suggest you adjust the brightness and contrast until you get something more like the last image I posted. Nobody can tell you what the correct settings are without seeing what's going on.
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    Ive played with alittle now... What do you think now?
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    that's better now
    Old cap Vs New cap:
    http://imageupload.org/en/file/210586/oldvsnew.jpg.html
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    Oki So fare so god What can i do to clean it up more then ? Maybe get some of the flicking away?
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