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    MaestroSBT creates bmp files and an .sst script (from ssa format files)
    MuxMan uses the script to load and mux the images to the DVD files.

    The generated subtitles are displayed blue with red outline from the values in:
    PA
    E1
    E2
    BG

    (I will use DVDSub Edit to adjust the colours later)

    The actual style should be as shown in 'Palette entries:' (yellow with a black outline).
    Muxman seems to ignore the palette entries (whether the # sign is removed or not) - is this normal behaviour for MuxMan and is there other freeware that can utilize the palette setting.

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    st_format    2
    Display_Start    non_forced
    TV_Type        NTSC
    Tape_Type    DROP
    Base_Time    00:00:00:00
    Pixel_Area    (0 477)
    Directory    E:\Faraar\Maestro\
    Subtitle    Faraar
    Display_Area    (0 2 719 479)
    Contrast    (15 15 15 0)
    
    #
    # Palette entries:
    #
    # 01 : RGB(180,180,180)
    # 02 : RGB( 90, 90, 90)
    # 03 : RGB(  0,  0,  0)
    #
    
    PA    (0 0 255 - - - )
    E1    (255 0 0 - - - )
    E2    (0 0 0 - - - )
    BG    (255 255 255 - - - )
    
    
    SP_NUMBER    START    END    FILE_NAME
    Color    (3 2 1 1)
    0001    00:03:26:10    00:03:27:24    Faraar_0001.bmp
    0002    00:03:28:12    00:03:29:25    Faraar_0002.bmp
    0003    00:03:29:28    00:03:31:13    Faraar_0003.bmp
    0004    00:03:34:01    00:03:35:21    Faraar_0004.bmp
    0005    00:03:36:08    00:03:38:09    Faraar_0005.bmp
    0006    00:03:38:12    00:03:39:20    Faraar_0006.bmp
    0007    00:03:39:24    00:03:41:25    Faraar_0007.bmp
    0008    00:03:42:11    00:03:44:06    Faraar_0008.bmp
    0009    00:03:44:18    00:03:46:00    Faraar_0009.bmp
    0010    00:03:46:03    00:03:48:11    Faraar_0010.bmp
    Those are mine. I use a third anti-aliasing color (and recommend you do the same for better quality subtitles). Mine wind up blue, red, and black, the same as MaestroSBT assigns. The BMPs themselves have nothing to do with the final color anyway. That is determined in the IFOs and is overlaid on top of the BMPs. As you already know, it's an easy matter to set the colors afterwards. I use PGCEdit and it takes more time for that program to open (15 seconds) than it does to set the final colors (grey, dark grey, and black, for me). Don't even bother messing with the colors in the SST file.

    So, I don't even know why you're trying to define the final colors to begin with. However, I think your suspicion that Muxman doesn't use the palette at all is correct. I think the palette becomes useful in the pro version of Muxman.
    ...is there other freeware that can utilize the palette setting.
    I don't know, but for me MaestroSBT is far and away the best DVD subtitle creator going and Muxman the best authoring engine.

    By the way, my palette entries come from the SSA subs I fed into MaestroSBT, I think. I set them up that way in SubStation Alpha when editing them. I think SubtitleCreator can utilize a palette on the way to creating SUP files and authoring. Not sure because I don't use it for subtitle creation and authoring.
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    PA (0 0 255 - - - )
    E1 (255 0 0 - - - )
    E2 (0 0 0 - - - )
    BG (255 255 255 - - - )
    I wondered if the - - - were for the palette entries, but it made no difference to MuxMan inasmuch as it ignored thm when I put the values in.

    Thank you for responding.
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  4. Originally Posted by sambat View Post
    PA (0 0 255 - - - )
    E1 (255 0 0 - - - )
    E2 (0 0 0 - - - )
    BG (255 255 255 - - - )
    I wondered if the - - - were for the palette entries,
    Those are the BMP colors. Up->down, blue, red, black and white. They're supposed to be 4-bit so you can't stick just any old color in there.

    And as I mentioned last time, there's no palette support in the free version of Muxman:

    http://mpucoder.com/Muxman/versions.shtml
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    FWIW, since I only use the yellow/black colours that are the default from MaestroSBT, I created a second palette in MuxMan.
    Transferring the palette information shown in the .sst file to a modified MuxMan .mxp file saves the step in DVDSubEdit.

    Thanks to the information in this thread


    http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/335583-Muxman-changes-color-of-SUP?p=2085422&viewfu...=1#post2085422


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