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    A friend provided me with links to the Chinese Blockbuster movie "Curse Of the Golden Flower 2006 1080p", however one is 15GB and the other version is 10GB, both are 1920X816.

    How does one tell which has better quality? (naked eyes couldn't really tell the difference) or can I always assume the bigger the file size is always better in quality wise? I only downloaded the 1st part of both versions just to preview.....

    Thanks.

    15Gb video
    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 2
    File size : 2.15 GiB
    Duration : 1h 53mn
    Overall bit rate : 2 708 Kbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2011-06-26 05:09:26
    Writing application : mkvmerge v4.8.0 ('I Got The...') built on May 24 2011 03:12:58
    Writing library : libebml v1.2.0 + libmatroska v1.1.0

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
    Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=46
    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration : 1h 53mn
    Bit rate : 2 014 Kbps
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 816 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.054
    Stream size : 1.60 GiB (74%)
    Title : Curse Of The Golden Flower (2006)
    Writing library : x264 core 115 r2008 4c552d8
    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=tesa / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.10:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=9 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=16.7 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.70
    Language : Chinese

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Codec ID : A_AC3
    Duration : 1h 53mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 640 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 6 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 520 MiB (24%)
    Title : AC3 5.1 @ 640 Kbps
    Language : Chinese

    Text
    ID : 3
    Format : UTF-8
    Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
    Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
    Language : English

    Menu
    00:00:00.000 : en:00:00:00.000
    00:07:35.789 : en:00:07:35.789
    00:16:01.794 : en:00:16:01.794
    00:24:58.247 : en:00:24:58.247
    00:35:45.393 : en:00:35:45.393
    00:46:16.732 : en:00:46:16.732
    00:55:13.644 : en:00:55:13.644
    01:05:06.361 : en:01:05:06.361
    01:11:48.262 : en:01:11:48.262
    01:22:02.918 : en:01:22:02.918
    01:34:14.899 : en:01:34:14.899
    01:43:26.534 : en:01:43:26.534

    10GB video
    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 2
    File size : 400 MiB
    Duration : 1h 53mn
    Overall bit rate : 490 Kbps
    Movie name : "Encoded_by_HDBRiSe"
    Encoded date : UTC 2009-06-27 11:31:05
    Writing application : mkvmerge v2.9.5 ('Tu es le seul') built on Jun 7 2009 11:07:07
    Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration : 1h 53mn
    Nominal bit rate : 10.4 Mbps
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 816 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.277
    Title : "Encoded_by_HDBRiSe"
    Writing library : x264 core 67 r1173M f6d3166
    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-2:-2 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=10405 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
    Language : English

    Audio #1
    ID : 2
    Format : DTS
    Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
    Codec ID : A_DTS
    Duration : 1h 53mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 6 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 24 bits
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 1.20 GiB
    Title : Chinese DTS
    Language : Chinese

    Audio #2
    ID : 3
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Codec ID : A_AC3
    Duration : 1h 53mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 640 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 6 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 522 MiB
    Title : English AC3
    Language : English

    Text #1
    ID : 4
    Format : UTF-8
    Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
    Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
    Title : English
    Language : English

    Text #2
    ID : 5
    Format : UTF-8
    Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
    Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
    Title : English SDH
    Language : English

    Text #3
    ID : 6
    Format : UTF-8
    Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
    Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
    Title : French
    Language : French

  2. Always Watching guns1inger's Avatar
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    You cannot tell from size alone. The bigger one may have a lost of wasted data by using more bit rate than required, or it may be encoded with inferior settings.

    The best way to guarantee you are getting the best quality is to buy the bluray instead of downloading an inferior version encoded by some hack.
    Read my blog here.

  3. Mod Neophyte Super Moderator redwudz's Avatar
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    Buy the movie.




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