Differences between these two files..

[dhr]

Hi there.. I'm having a slight issue with some mp4 files playing on my PS3. It seems around 20% of the Mp4's show "corrupted data" when played on the ps3, while others play just fine. I'm looking to convert these files into a known good format, however, I'm having trouble finding a codec that is going to work for me.

I'm using program called MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) to help find the differences between an mp4 that works, and one that does not. From what I can tell, these files look really close, but perhaps someone could look at this information and show me what the big differences are. Thank you in advance..

Working File:

General
Complete name                    : \\solaris\c$\Movies\Pandorum (2009)\Pandorum (2004).mp4
Format                           : MPEG-4
Format profile                   : Base Media
Codec ID                         : isom
File size                        : 1.60 GiB
Duration                         : 1h 47mn
Overall bit rate                 : 2 125 Kbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-02-07 07:39:32
Tagged date                      : UTC 2010-02-07 07:39:32

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : Main@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 6 frames
Codec ID                         : avc1
Codec ID/Info                    : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                         : 1h 47mn
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 1 703 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                 : 20.5 Mbps
Width                            : 1 280 pixels
Height                           : 544 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 2.35:1
Frame rate mode                  : Constant
Frame rate                       : 24.000 fps
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.102
Stream size                      : 1.28 GiB (80%)
Writing library                  : x264 core 80 r1376M 3feaec2
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.0:0.2 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=26 / 

chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / 

constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc_lookahead=50 / 

rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1703 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=50000 / vbv_bufsize=50000 / 

ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-02-06 20:34:09
Tagged date                      : UTC 2010-02-07 07:40:56

Audio #1
ID                               : 2
Format                           : AAC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                   : LC
Codec ID                         : 40
Duration                         : 1h 47mn
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 288 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                 : 386 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Stream size                      : 224 MiB (14%)
Language                         : English
Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-02-07 07:40:24
Tagged date                      : UTC 2010-02-07 07:40:56

Audio #2
ID                               : 3
Format                           : AAC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                   : LC
Codec ID                         : 40
Duration                         : 1h 47mn
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 127 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                 : 166 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L R
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Stream size                      : 98.0 MiB (6%)
Language                         : English
Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-02-07 07:40:52
Tagged date                      : UTC 2010-02-07 07:40:56

Non Working File

General
Complete name                    : \\SOLARIS\d$\Movies\Alice in Wonderland (2010)\Alice in Wonderland 

(2010).mp4
Format                           : MPEG-4
Format profile                   : Base Media
Codec ID                         : isom
File size                        : 2.18 GiB
Duration                         : 1h 48mn
Overall bit rate                 : 2 875 Kbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-05-13 20:12:22
Tagged date                      : UTC 2010-05-13 20:12:22

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 8 frames
Codec ID                         : avc1
Codec ID/Info                    : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                         : 1h 48mn
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 2 552 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                 : 14.1 Mbps
Width                            : 1 280 pixels
Height                           : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate mode                  : Constant
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.115
Stream size                      : 1.94 GiB (89%)
Title                            : Alice in Wonderland By 3Li
Writing library                  : x264 core 80 r1376M 3feaec2
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=8 / deblock=1:-2:-2 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / 

subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.2:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / 

cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-1 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=2 

/ nr=0 / decimate=0 / mbaff=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=6 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / 

direct=1 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=42 / rc_lookahead=42 / rc=2pass 

/ mbtree=1 / bitrate=2552 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 

/ qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-05-13 03:07:15
Tagged date                      : UTC 2010-05-13 20:12:59

Audio
ID                               : 2
Format                           : AAC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                   : LC
Codec ID                         : 40
Duration                         : 1h 48mn
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 320 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                 : 342 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Stream size                      : 248 MiB (11%)
Title                            : Alice in Wonderland
Language                         : English
Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-05-13 20:12:54
Tagged date                      : UTC 2010-05-13 20:12:59

[dhr]

Looks like this thread is irrelevant now.. I've found a software called Handbreak that allows me to convert these files to mp4's that play perfectly on the ps3..

[jagabo]

8 ReFrames and 6 bframes is probably too much for the PS3.

[dhr]

8 ReFrames and 6 bframes is probably too much for the PS3.

@jagabo

Thanks very much for the reply..

I'm not 100% sure what the reframes and bframes are at the moment, however, I look forward to doing some research on the matter.

Thanks again.

[jagabo]

Bframes are bi-directionally encoded frames -- pieces can come from frames both before and after the bframe. As opposed to P frames which can only reference prior frames; and I frames which are individual pictures like a JPEG image.

http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings#bframes

ReFrames, or reference frames, are the number of different frames those pieces can come from.

http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings#ref