Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD 10/DVD Architect 5, recompress for blu ray?

[apollo1980]

Hi all.

I have an h264 file that I have edited on in Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD 10. I have created a 1280 x 720 23.97fps video file (video was shot in 24p at 1280 x 720) in the m2v format. I have aiff audio separate from the video file.

When I put the video file into DVD Architect 5 to burn to blu ray, I'm told that the file file needs to be recompressed. I know the aiff will be recompressed, and I'm ok with audio compression.

I edited off of the master h264 file and compressed into m2v, but I really don't want a second recompression.

So...

Exactly what format must I output my edited video file to so that I can avoid recompression?

I know if I output the file in mpg2 720 x 480, when I put the file in architect, there is no recompression necessary when burning to DVD.

Thanks in advance.

[poisondeathray]

uncompressed , and allow dvda to re-encode it. At least this way you avoid an extra stage generation loss

sony vegas (all versions incl. pro) , don't export h.264 according to blu-ray compatible specifications

or use a 3rd party encoder that encodes to blu-ray specs e.g. you could use x264 to output raw avc. You might use debugmode frameserver (with some gui for x264 if you're not comfortable with commandline) to export rawavc. DVDA doesn't support mbaff authoring (which x264 uses for it's "interlaced" encoding), but that doesn't matter in this specific case, because you are using 1280x720p23.976

[apollo1980]

Thanks for your response. Two questions:

1.) I have an AC3 audio file of the video. Architect 5 tells me it will need to compress THAT file. When I used the same file for DVD authorizing, it accepted it as-is. Please advise. I do have an aiff of the same audio file, so if compression is necessary, I can use that one instead.

2.) I get "An error occured" message when I try to go uncompressed. It doesn't tell me any more than that.

I did use the same settings, 1280 x 720p 23.976 fps and try to save the video as an m2ts file (I assume that it won't recompress that file), but when it was created, the video took up from the upper left corner, to about 2/3 of the video screen, with a green line at the bottom.

Any ideas what's going on?

BTW I'm not sure I can use the other software you were talking about, as I'm taking the 22 minute h264 I have and editing it down to one minute.

[poisondeathray]

Are you using the pro version of DVDA ? There might be some differences between the studio version

AC3 should be compatible (pass through) , even for DVD, let alone blu-ray. Something is either wrong with your file, or software. Is it 48Khz ?

I think the option for uncompressed AVI should be under "AVI" , you might not have that option in the studio version

Alternatively, you could use HD MPEG2 compression for blu-ray, this should allow pass through in authoring. The bundled sony's AVC (or mainconcept AVC) implementation isn't that great anyways

I did use the same settings, 1280 x 720p 23.976 fps and try to save the video as an m2ts file (I assume that it won't recompress that file)

You're referring to "Smart rendering". If the input file was AVCHD from a camcorder (not some other flavor of h.264), and the settings matched, then it might work. It's very wonky in vegas. Usually doesn't work. It usually re-encodes. If it says "smart rendering no recompression required" when exporting, you know it's working. 1280x720p23.976 isn't a standard AVCHD camcorder format, so I doubt it will work for you

[dylz]

@apollo1980

Have you read the DVD Architect manual it tells you you need

Bluray Specs:

AC3 Audio:

Sample Rate

Bit Rate

Channels

48,000 Hz
192 Kbps
(64 Kbps to 640 Kbps is supported)
Stereo
48,000 Hz
192 Kbps
(64 Kbps to 640 Kbps is supported)
5.1 surround

PCM Audio

Sample Rate

Bit Depth

Channels

Compression

48,000 Hz

16 or 24 bit

Stereo

Uncompressed

96,000 Hz

16 or 24 bit

Stereo

Uncompressed

192,000 Hz

16 or 24 bit

Stereo

Uncompressed

AVC Video

If you’re using Vegas Pro software, you can use the AVCHD rendering templates to render a compliant video file including 5.1 surround AC-3 audio.

Template Name

Frame Size

Frame Rate

Aspect Ratio

Max. Bit Rate

AVCHD NTSC 5.1 Surround

1440x1080

29.970 fps

16:9

40 Mbps

AVCHD PAL 5.1 Surround

1440x1080

25 fps

16:9

40 Mbps

If you're rendering with a different application, the following settings will produce compliant AVC media.
Frame Size
Frame Rate (fps)
Aspect Ratio
Max. Bit Rate

720x480

29.970 interlaced

4:3

40 Mbps

720x480

29.970 interlaced

16:9

40 Mbps

720x576

25 interlaced

4:3

40 Mbps

720x576

25 interlaced

16:9

40 Mbps

1280x720

29.970 interlaced

16:9

40 Mbps

1280x720

50

16:9

40 Mbps

1280x720

24.000

16:9

40 Mbps

1280x720

23.976

16:9

40 Mbps

1440x1080

29.970 interlaced

16:9

40 Mbps

1440x1080

25 interlaced

16:9

40 Mbps

1440x1080

24.000

16:9

40 Mbps

1440x1080

23.976

16:9

40 Mbps

1920x1080

29.970 interlaced

16:9

40 Mbps

1920x1080

25 interlaced

16:9

40 Mbps

1920x1080

24.000

16:9

40 Mbps

1920x1080

23.976

16:9

40 Mbps

Mpeg-2 Video

If you're using Vegas Pro software, you can use the Blu-ray rendering templates to render your video stream. You'll need to render your audio stream separately according to the parameters listed in the AC-3 audio or PCM audio headings in this help topic.

Template Name

Frame Size

Frame Rate (fps)

Aspect Ratio

Maximum Group of Pictures

Max. Bit Rate

Blu-ray 1920x1080-24p, 25 Mbps video stream

1920x1080

23.976

16:9

24

40 Mbps

Blu-ray 1920x1080-50i, 25 Mbps video stream
1920x1080

25

16:9

25

40 Mbps

Blu-ray 1920x1080-60i, 25 Mbps video stream

1920x1080

29.970

16:9

30

40 Mbps

Blu-ray 1440x1080-24p, 25 Mbps video stream

1440x1080

23.976

16:9

24

40 Mbps

Blu-ray 1440x1080-50i, 25 Mbps video stream

1440x1080

25

16:9

25

40 Mbps

Blu-ray 1440x1080-60i, 25 Mbps video stream

1440x1080

29.970

16:9

30

40 Mbps

Blu-ray 1440x1080-24p, 8 Mbps video stream

1440x1080

23.976

16:9

24

40 Mbps

Blu-ray 1440x1080-50i, 8 Mbps video stream

1440x1080

25

16:9

25

40 Mbps

Blu-ray 1440x1080-60i, 8 Mbps video stream

1440x1080

29.970

16:9

30

40 Mbps

If you're rendering with a different application, the following settings will produce compliant MPEG-2 video stream.
Frame Size
Frame Rate (fps)
Aspect Ratio
Maximum Group of Pictures
Max. Bit Rate

720x480

29.970 interlaced

4:3

30

40 Mbps

720x480

29.970 interlaced

16:9

30

40 Mbps

720x576

25 interlaced

4:3

25

40 Mbps

720x576

25 interlaced

16:9

25

40 Mbps

1280x720

29.970 interlaced

16:9

60

40 Mbps

1280x720

50

16:9

50

40 Mbps

1280x720

24.000

16:9

24

40 Mbps

1280x720

23.976

16:9

24

40 Mbps

1440x1080

29.970 interlaced

16:9

30

40 Mbps

1440x1080

25 interlaced

16:9

25

40 Mbps

1440x1080

24.000

16:9

24

40 Mbps

1440x1080

23.976

16:9

24

40 Mbps

1920x1080

29.970 interlaced

16:9

30

40 Mbps

1920x1080

25 interlaced

16:9

25

40 Mbps

1920x1080

24.000

16:9

24

40 Mbps

1920x1080

23.976

16:9

24

40 Mbps

[dylz]

@apollo1980

Have you read the DVD Architect manual ?, it tells you you need these Bluray Specs:


AC-3 audio (.ac3)

Sample Rate Bit Rate Channels

48,000 Hz 192 Kbps
(64 Kbps to 640 Kbps is supported) Stereo
48,000 Hz 192 Kbps
(64 Kbps to 640 Kbps is supported) 5.1 surround

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PCM audio (.wav or .w64)

Sample Rate Bit Depth Channels Compression

48,000 Hz 16 or 24 bit Stereo Uncompressed
96,000 Hz 16 or 24 bit Stereo Uncompressed
192,000 Hz 16 or 24 bit Stereo Uncompressed

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AVC video
If you’re using Vegas Pro software, you can use the AVCHD rendering templates to render a compliant video file including 5.1 surround AC-3 audio.

Template Name Frame Size Frame Rate Aspect Ratio Max. Bit Rate

AVCHD NTSC 5.1 Surround 1440x1080 29.970 fps 16:9 (MAX)40 Mbps
AVCHD PAL 5.1 Surround 1440x1080 25 fps 16:9 40 Mbps
If you're rendering with a different application, the following settings will produce compliant AVC media.
Frame Size Frame Rate (fps) Aspect Ratio Max. Bit Rate
720x480 29.970 interlaced 4:3 40 Mbps
720x480 29.970 interlaced 16:9 40 Mbps
720x576 25 interlaced 4:3 40 Mbps
720x576 25 interlaced 16:9 40 Mbps
1280x720 29.970 interlaced 16:9 40 Mbps
1280x720 50 16:9 40 Mbps
1280x720 24.000 16:9 40 Mbps
1280x720 23.976 16:9 40 Mbps
1440x1080 29.970 interlaced 16:9 40 Mbps
1440x1080 25 interlaced 16:9 40 Mbps
1440x1080 24.000 16:9 40 Mbps
1440x1080 23.976 16:9 40 Mbps
1920x1080 29.970 interlaced 16:9 40 Mbps
1920x1080 25 interlaced 16:9 40 Mbps
1920x1080 24.000 16:9 40 Mbps
1920x1080 23.976 16:9 40 Mbps


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MPEG-2 video
If you're using Vegas Pro software, you can use the Blu-ray rendering templates to render your video stream. You'll need to render your audio stream separately according to the parameters listed in the AC-3 audio or PCM audio headings in this help topic.


Template Name Frame Size Frame Rate (fps) Aspect Ratio Maximum Group of Pictures Max. Bit Rate


Blu-ray 1920x1080-24p, 25 Mbps video stream 1920x1080 23.976 16:9 24 40 Mbps
Blu-ray 1920x1080-50i, 25 Mbps video stream 1920x1080 25 16:9 25 40 Mbps
Blu-ray 1920x1080-60i, 25 Mbps video stream 1920x1080 29.970 16:9 30 40 Mbps
Blu-ray 1440x1080-24p, 25 Mbps video stream 1440x1080 23.976 16:9 24 40 Mbps
Blu-ray 1440x1080-50i, 25 Mbps video stream 1440x1080 25 16:9 25 40 Mbps
Blu-ray 1440x1080-60i, 25 Mbps video stream 1440x1080 29.970 16:9 30 40 Mbps
Blu-ray 1440x1080-24p, 8 Mbps video stream 1440x1080 23.976 16:9 24 40 Mbps
Blu-ray 1440x1080-50i, 8 Mbps video stream 1440x1080 25 16:9 25 40 Mbps
Blu-ray 1440x1080-60i, 8 Mbps video stream 1440x1080 29.970 16:9 30 40 Mbps
If you're rendering with a different application, the following settings will produce compliant MPEG-2 video stream.
Frame Size Frame Rate (fps) Aspect Ratio Maximum Group of Pictures Max. Bit Rate
720x480 29.970 interlaced 4:3 30 40 Mbps
720x480 29.970 interlaced 16:9 30 40 Mbps
720x576 25 interlaced 4:3 25 40 Mbps
720x576 25 interlaced 16:9 25 40 Mbps
1280x720 29.970 interlaced 16:9 60 40 Mbps
1280x720 50 16:9 50 40 Mbps
1280x720 24.000 16:9 24 40 Mbps
1280x720 23.976 16:9 24 40 Mbps
1440x1080 29.970 interlaced 16:9 30 40 Mbps
1440x1080 25 interlaced 16:9 25 40 Mbps
1440x1080 24.000 16:9 24 40 Mbps
1440x1080 23.976 16:9 24 40 Mbps
1920x1080 29.970 interlaced 16:9 30 40 Mbps
1920x1080 25 interlaced 16:9 25 40 Mbps
1920x1080 24.000 16:9 24 40 Mbps