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    Hi there.
    I'm trying to convert some VHSs to DVD and I'm having a hard time on one of them
    I have my HR-S9800U connected to a Panasonic DMR-ES15 and then a Canopus ADVC110.
    After suffering with dirty video heads (even cleaning the tapes before using them) I can't get a satisfying result.
    What artifacts you guys see on the above screenshots?
    The first one is when the video is not playing, as you can see. But I don't know if those dots and lines are normal.
    Then the video I'm trying to capture, which I set stabilizer ON on the VCR, because the TBC was making it really shaky.
    Any thoughts?
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    I'm using VirtualDub to get the screenshots. Using deinterlace filter (on default options) to get the output video.
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    Sorry. I clicked on "programming" and not on "restoration".
    Some mod move the thread, pls.
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    Moire pattern -- digital noise. I'd bet on it being caused by Canopus box.
    Does it appear on TV?
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    I don't have the VCR connected to a TV right now.
    But it seems my VCR svideo output is not very good. I reconnected the cable and it seems a little better now. Without the dots and lines.
    This "moire pattern" you say is on both screenshots?
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    Thread moved to restoration.
    I think,therefore i am a hamster.
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  6. Dot crawl and vertical lines in the flat blue image. Dot crawl comes from not completely separating chroma and luma in the composite signal (either the ADVC110 or the ES15). The vertical lines may be from the source, the ES15 or the ADVC110.

    Chroma noise, luma noise, blurry chroma channels (unavoidable with VHS), a little macroblocking (unavoidable with DV) in the other image.
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    Kind of hard to eliminate all that
    But it's acceptable overall.
    Maybe the chroma and luma problem was caused by the svideo output on the VCR. Which is better now. Even the lines on the first image are not seen anymore.
    Thanx for the replies.
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    Try changing your analog wires.
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    I'm using good cables.
    Gonna try a cheap one to see what happens.
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  10. Try enabling the noise filtering on the ES15. It filters too much for my taste but you might like it.
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    I couldn't find the options for that.
    Aren't the TBC and more advanced features enabled by default using AV 1 inputs?
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  12. I don't have it here right now but I seem to remember the Noise Filter setting is on the Display menu, not on the Setup menu where you'd expect it.
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    No luck.
    All I found was some black level, which I changed from light to dark on the output option.
    Maybe my ES15 is a capped version of the american recorder.
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  14. USA Panasonic ES15: press Display on the remote, select Video tab, Line-in NR has three settings: Off, On, Automatic.
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    I found the problem.
    I got this recorder used and it came without remote.
    I bought a remote that was supposed to be a "genuine copy" of the ES15 remote. With all the functions available.
    The button Epg/Disp, which is the only one that says something about display, does nothing.
    Need to find a real ES15 remote to test. Sux.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Dot crawl and vertical lines in the flat blue image. Dot crawl comes from not completely separating chroma and luma in the composite signal (either the ADVC110 or the ES15).
    Didn't the original post state the connection used was s-video (not composite)?
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  17. Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Dot crawl and vertical lines in the flat blue image. Dot crawl comes from not completely separating chroma and luma in the composite signal (either the ADVC110 or the ES15).
    Didn't the original post state the connection used was s-video (not composite)?
    I didn't see any mention of cabling.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Dot crawl and vertical lines in the flat blue image. Dot crawl comes from not completely separating chroma and luma in the composite signal (either the ADVC110 or the ES15).
    Didn't the original post state the connection used was s-video (not composite)?
    I didn't see any mention of cabling.
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    Originally Posted by Caple View Post
    Maybe the chroma and luma problem was caused by the svideo output on the VCR. Which is better now. Even the lines on the first image are not seen anymore.
    Thanx for the replies.
    I don't know why anyone would use a tbc-equipped JVC VCR with other than s-video output, but I assume it's done often. Come to think of it, I never used anything else on my '7600.
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  19. Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Dot crawl and vertical lines in the flat blue image. Dot crawl comes from not completely separating chroma and luma in the composite signal (either the ADVC110 or the ES15).
    Didn't the original post state the connection used was s-video (not composite)?
    I didn't see any mention of cabling.
    Here:
    Originally Posted by Caple View Post
    Maybe the chroma and luma problem was caused by the svideo output on the VCR. Which is better now. Even the lines on the first image are not seen anymore.
    Thanx for the replies.
    But that was after my post.
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