Avisynth Filters (help pls)

[Enkidu]

Hello everyone.
I'm encoding anime, and i need a little help with my avisynth script. The video is progressive and i'm adding some filters, but i need help. Is this the correct way ? Or i need to add the filters by order ?

LoadPlugin("D:\Video Tools\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\VagueDenoiser.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\Video Tools\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Toon-v1.0.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\Video Tools\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\convolution3d.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\Video Tools\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\aWarpSharp.dll")
DirectShowSource(My video here, fps=23.976, audio=false, convertfps=true)

Tweak(0,1.7,0,1)
#Convolution3D (0, 32, 128, 32, 128, 10, 0)
#aWarpSharp(depth=22.0, blurlevel=1)
#Toon(strength = 0.5)
#VagueDenoiser(threshold=2, method=1, nsteps=6, chromaT=2.0)
Lanczos4Resize(848,480) # Lanczos4 (Sharp)

Ps: Also some recommendations are appreciated

Thanks,

\\\Enkidu///

[poisondeathray]

Yes, order of operations is important . They work in sequence, one after another . We cannot give specific suggestions unless you describe or post screenshots of what you are trying to do (we're not psychic)

[Enkidu]

(we're not psychic) XD lol, you are right.
So, are my filters in order?

I'm trying to give more sharpness and color to my video.
This is an image of my last encode using this :

Tweak(0,1.7,0,1)
#fft3dfilter(sigma=1.5, bt=5, bw=32, bh=32, ow=16, oh=16, sharpen=0)
#WarpSharp(Depth=205, Blur=1, Bump=205, Cubic=0.6)
Spline64Resize(1280,720) # Spline64 (Sharp)

But i want more sharpness, that's why i'm using Toon and aWarpsharp this time.

ps: image = 1280x720 p

[poisondeathray]

I'm trying to give more sharpness and color to my video.
This is an image of my last encode using this :

Tweak(0,1.7,0,1)
#fft3dfilter(sigma=1.5, bt=5, bw=32, bh=32, ow=16, oh=16, sharpen=0)
#WarpSharp(Depth=205, Blur=1, Bump=205, Cubic=0.6)
Spline64Resize(1280,720) # Spline64 (Sharp)

But i want more sharpness, that's why i'm using Toon and aWarpsharp this time.

You aren't using toon or awarpsharp , and "warpsharp" is commented out #

Toon doesn't sharpen, it darkens lines . Awarpsharp does sharpen but it also thins lines

You can try sharpening filters like LSFMod (make sure you look at the documentation for the parameters)

Lanczos4Resize (in your first post) is often a poor choice for anime, because it causes halos

Often filters come down to personal preference, because there is a lot of subjectivity

I wouldn't use DirectShowSource() as a source filter, especially when using temporal based filters, because it's not necessarily frame accurate, and you can get mixed up frames and screwed up filtering

[manono]

So, are my filters in order?

If you're talking about the LoadPlugin lines, it doesn't matter.

You're upscaling from a standard def source? If so, why? And if so, don't forget to use the ColorMatrix filter.

[Enkidu]

So, to use LSFMod, i need to have Masktools ; Warpsharp ; Variableblur ; Removegrain ? ( or just need to load the plugin in my avs ? )
But i have a little problem (i'm a noob ), when i try to download LSFMod, it's only text. http://latoninf.free.fr/d9/LM/LSFmod.v1.9.avsi ( what i must do ? )
Can i use toon plugin to darker the lines with LSFMod ?

Sorry to ask all this..

Ps: do you know some good parameters to use in anime ?( talking about LSFMod )

thanks

[poisondeathray]

.avsi files are autoloading when you put in avisynth/plugins folder
.avs files have to be loaded manually - LoadPlugin("PATH\filter.avs")

Most filters will list the prerequistes either in the filter (in the .avsi) or on the homepage. You can look on avisynth mediawiki and it often tells you as well (for other filters as well)
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/LSFmod

For LSFMod, start with adjusting the strength . Anime is very easy to oversharpen (causes halos)

AVSP is a good tool to start using, you can preview scripts, use sliders, multiple tabs (for comparing different versions of filter chains to see which version is better, for example), macros

[Enkidu]

Wow, that software is awesome
I have another question , which is the best (or good) deinterlace plugin, for anime? Should i use anti-leasing on .ts files? Or a simple denoise filter ?

thanks for your great help

[poisondeathray]

Some good general options in general for deinterlacing (there are many others):

Yadifmod + NNEDI2

TempGaussMC_beta2 , but it denoises a bit at default settings (maybe a good thing, depends on your goal). You can adjust the settings of course

Antialiasing filters , like AAA(), santiag() , dozens more in this thread
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=153835

[Gavino]

.avsi files are autoloading when you put in avisynth/plugins folder
.avs files have to be loaded manually - LoadPlugin("PATH\filter.avs")

You mean Import("PATH\filter.avs")
(I know you know this, but I have a feeling that's the 2nd time I've corrected you on it )

@Enkidu
.dll files in the Avisynth plugins folder are also loaded automatically, so you don't need the LoadPlugin lines for them.

[manono]

I have another question , which is the best (or good) deinterlace plugin, for anime?

For the most part, you don't need to deinterlace anime at all; IVTC maybe, but not deinterlace.

[poisondeathray]

.avsi files are autoloading when you put in avisynth/plugins folder
.avs files have to be loaded manually - LoadPlugin("PATH\filter.avs")

You mean Import("PATH\filter.avs")
(I know you know this, but I have a feeling that's the 2nd time I've corrected you on it )

Whooops again ... thanks for correction but I think it's more like 3-4 times

[manono]

(I know you know this, but I have a feeling that's the 2nd time I've corrected you on it )

I know you've corrected me once for the same thing. Maybe that's the other one you were thinking of.

[chowmein]

Some good general options in general for deinterlacing (there are many others):

Yadifmod + NNEDI2

Is there any reason not to use Yadifmod + NNEDI3?

[poisondeathray]

Is there any reason not to use Yadifmod + NNEDI3?

Only speed. The quality difference is minimal to none, but the speed penalty isn't . Try both out for yourself and see the difference