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    I'm trying to burn an 800mb avi, approximately 792mb. Technically, it can't be done because cd-r's can only accomodate 703mb.

    I've tried to reduce its resolution of 720x408 to 640x360 and burning it then, only to realize Virtualdub isn't the best for that...

    My audio is around 30mb of the video itself, in Mpeg 2 Layer 3.

    Is there a way to get this file on a cd, or am I gonna have to split&burn to 2 cds to keep quality up?

    NOTE: I have tried AVIRecomp, and the quality is not the best, but kind of acceptable. The thing is, I know there is some other way to get this file on a cd w/o losing that much quality. I'll try to get a picture up of the converted file.

    P.S. I do not have a DVD Burner.
    Burning a Blu-ray is the next achievement. ;)
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    In virtualdub try direct stream copy for the video and set the audio to "full processing mode" then try changing either audio -> conversion, or the audio ->compression. A large amount of the data is the audio.
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    I'm trying to burn an 800mb avi, approximately 792mb.
    Technically, it can't be done because cd-r's can only accomodate 703mb.

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    Is there a way to get this file on a cd,
    or am I gonna have to split&burn to 2 cds to keep quality up?
    Try recording on an 8-cm DVD-R.
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    What is the running length of the movie (minutes and seconds) and what bitrate of the audio?
    Virtualdub is incredibly versatile and can easily do what you want - but there is a learning curve.

    You can re-encode the video (2-pass) and use the existing audio as-is. Use a bitrate calculator to figure the bit-rate.
    The Divx configuration box has a useful one.
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    Ever heard of DVD's???
    CD's are almost obsolete for burners now, if you haven't got a DVD burner it's time you upgraded
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    Technically it's 730mb's max for cdr's
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    Originally Posted by darkknight145 View Post
    Ever heard of DVD's???
    CD's are almost obsolete for burners now, if you haven't got a DVD burner it's time you upgraded
    Originally Posted by El Heggunte View Post
    I'm trying to burn an 800mb avi, approximately 792mb.
    Technically, it can't be done because cd-r's can only accomodate 703mb.

    ...

    ...

    Is there a way to get this file on a cd,
    or am I gonna have to split&burn to 2 cds to keep quality up?
    Try recording on an 8-cm DVD-R.
    read the fine print::

    P.S. I DO NOT have a DVD BURNER!

    The running length of the movie is 1 hour and 29 minutes.

    I tried to reencode the audio at a lower bitrate, and it was successful. The downside to that is that the speakers sounded muffled.
    Burning a Blu-ray is the next achievement. ;)
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    Here are some specific instructions for using Virtualdub.
    Install the Divx codec if it's not already installed

    Open your source in virtualdub.
    Set Audio/direct stream copy
    Select Video/ compression (choose Divx) / configure.
    Hit "restore defaults"
    Under rate control, choose 1st pass (fast)
    Select the calculator icon to the right and set the running length, filesize desired, and audio bitrate and then accept.
    On the "codec" tab, select "enhanced multitasking" (only of you have dual core or better)
    OK out of the Divx config.

    Select file/queue batch operation/ run video analysis pass

    Select video/compression/divx/configure
    Under rate control set multipass Nth Pass.
    Move the quality slider to 4 or 5.
    OK out.

    Select file/queue batch operation/Save as AVI

    Select file/job control.
    Check "auto start" and both passes will encode.
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  10. As was mentioned above , go buy a DVD burner for $20.
    Any other method used to shrink it to fit on a single CD-R will reduce PQ by a good margin. Them's the facts.
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    Originally Posted by davexnet View Post
    Here are some specific instructions for using Virtualdub.
    Install the Divx codec if it's not already installed

    Open your source in virtualdub.
    Set Audio/direct stream copy
    Select Video/ compression (choose Divx) / configure.
    Hit "restore defaults"
    Under rate control, choose 1st pass (fast)
    Select the calculator icon to the right and set the running length, filesize desired, and audio bitrate and then accept.
    On the "codec" tab, select "enhanced multitasking" (only of you have dual core or better)
    OK out of the Divx config.

    Select file/queue batch operation/ run video analysis pass

    Select video/compression/divx/configure
    Under rate control set multipass Nth Pass.
    Move the quality slider to 4 or 5.
    OK out.

    Select file/queue batch operation/Save as AVI

    Select file/job control.
    Check "auto start" and both passes will encode.
    I don't have the divx codec... So what do I do
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    Download and install it... There's only so much fellow-forum members can do long distance.
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    You could also consider buying and burning to non-standard 90 minute CD-Rs. You'll have to search on the internet to find them. Burning to DVD or re-encoding to a smaller size or splitting and burning to 2 discs are probably easier choices. Do note that if you do decide to buy and try the 90 minute CD-Rs that you should burn them as slowly as your burner will allow to avoid failed burns. I personally recommend 4x or less burning speed for these discs. And you'll need a tool that supports overburning such as Nero (not sure if ImgBurn can do this or not. I know Nero can.).
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    An illegally downloaded movie off the internet already looks like crap at 800MB. Re-encoding to an even lower bitrate will only make it look worse. Could try trimming the opening intro and closing credits from the file and smart rendering in Virtualdub but I doubt you'll be able to trim 100MBs off the file.
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    Originally Posted by mark63534 View Post


    The running length of the movie is 1 hour and 29 minutes.

    I tried to reencode the audio at a lower bitrate, and it was successful. The downside to that is that the speakers sounded muffled.
    That so overcomplicated.

    WHY don't you re-rip/encode the movie instead of re-transcoding all the way through and wasting time?!?

    Alternatively,
    grab a good CD-R (TYor Verbatim) and overburn it.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    I didn't want to suggest this as I feel that the other suggestions are better, but this is indeed a possibility. Note that there is always a chance that a non-PC (ie. standalone DVD player) may not play such discs. Or it may have no problems with them.
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  17. Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    If the OP isn't too sure on how to get the divx codec loaded onto his PC, I'm a bit doubtful on him being able to do this. And then there could very well be compatibility issues with his player. Just sayin'..
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    Originally Posted by davexnet View Post
    Here are some specific instructions for using Virtualdub.
    Install the Divx codec if it's not already installed

    Open your source in virtualdub.
    Set Audio/direct stream copy
    Select Video/ compression (choose Divx) / configure.
    Hit "restore defaults"
    Under rate control, choose 1st pass (fast)
    Select the calculator icon to the right and set the running length, filesize desired, and audio bitrate and then accept.
    On the "codec" tab, select "enhanced multitasking" (only of you have dual core or better)
    OK out of the Divx config.

    Select file/queue batch operation/ run video analysis pass

    Select video/compression/divx/configure
    Under rate control set multipass Nth Pass.
    Move the quality slider to 4 or 5.
    OK out.

    Select file/queue batch operation/Save as AVI

    Select file/job control.
    Check "auto start" and both passes will encode.
    Currently, I am trying this method again. The first time I tried it, it was late at night, so as a result, I did not get to do both jobs. Today, hopefully, I will be able to do so.

    I have looked at the XCD method and thought about trying it, but wouldn't know how to encode back into an avi.

    NOTE: I am trying to burn the file for a backup purpose. I'm really trying to delete it once I get it burned to a cd that the quality is acceptable and > then my AVIRecomp mess that I made. Will try to get a picture up.
    Burning a Blu-ray is the next achievement. ;)
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  19. Originally Posted by mark63534 View Post
    I have looked at the XCD method and thought about trying it, but wouldn't know how to encode back into an avi.
    This doesn't require any changes to your 800 MB file. Just select mode 2 when you burn your CD. The trouble with mode 2 is that there's less error correction so you're at greater risk of corruption.

    Originally Posted by mark63534 View Post
    NOTE: I am trying to burn the file for a backup purpose.
    Split it in two without any reencoding and put it on two CDs. Or use QuickPar split it into several smaller files with parity files. Burn the files to two CDs. The parity files will allow you to recover the file even if parts of it become corrupt.

    In any case, if you're going to use CDs as backup you will need to have multiple copies.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    Originally Posted by mark63534 View Post
    I have looked at the XCD method and thought about trying it, but wouldn't know how to encode back into an avi.
    This doesn't require any changes to your 800 MB file. Just select mode 2 when you burn your CD. The trouble with mode 2 is that there's less error correction so you're at greater risk of corruption.

    Originally Posted by mark63534 View Post
    NOTE: I am trying to burn the file for a backup purpose.
    Split it in two without any reencoding and put it on two CDs. Or use QuickPar split it into several smaller files with parity files. Burn the files to two CDs. The parity files will allow you to recover the file even if parts of it become corrupt.

    In any case, if you're going to use CDs as backup you will need to have multiple copies.
    Idk. I have a bad case of premonition syndrome.

    For some weird reason, I feel as if I WILL lose this video if i burn it to 2 cds mainly because there are 2 cds. Also, it would be a waste of space to take up 100mb of space for a split file. Even if 400/400, it's still waisting space. You still lose 600mb+
    Burning a Blu-ray is the next achievement. ;)
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  21. Reencoding the video is going to cost you more in electricity than an extra CD. Well, not really. But why bother since you'll have to spend a lot of time learning to encode.
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    I did do the reencode, and It looks a little glitchy from far out pictures. But when zoomed in, it doesn't look half bad. I'll have to compare w/ AVIRecomp's encode.

    EDIT: AVIRecomp actually looks a little better somewhat, but hey, what do you expect when you switch codecs.
    Burning a Blu-ray is the next achievement. ;)
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    It's hard to diagnose any further without seeing the result and perhaps the source. In my setup, I've used xvid and divx; they both play on my standalone but the divx-encoded files are smoother - the player just handles them better. Can you post 20 - 30 MB's of the source ? One thing about Virtualdub is that it forces you learn the process, because it's all manual steps. However, that may be bad for some users - and the all-in-one convert program works better for them.
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    Originally Posted by davexnet View Post
    It's hard to diagnose any further without seeing the result and perhaps the source. In my setup, I've used xvid and divx; they both play on my standalone but the divx-encoded files are smoother - the player just handles them better. Can you post 20 - 30 MB's of the source ? One thing about Virtualdub is that it forces you learn the process, because it's all manual steps. However, that may be bad for some users - and the all-in-one convert program works better for them.
    How exactly do I do so without losing too much quality?
    Burning a Blu-ray is the next achievement. ;)
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  25. Extract segment with VirtualDub (no quality loss):

    1) File -> Open Video File
    2) Video -> Direct Stream Copy
    3) Mark-in, Mark-out
    4) File -> Save as AVI
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    Burning a Blu-ray is the next achievement. ;)
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    I had absolutely no luck downloading from "loombo.com".
    In fact, IE8 closed the tab and said it was a malicious site.

    Try http://www.mediafire.com/
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    Burning a Blu-ray is the next achievement. ;)
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  29. Originally Posted by mark63534 View Post

    "This file is currently set to private. When a file is set to private by its owner only the owner of the file can access it..."
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