Adding .IFO .BUP etc

[captainzog]

I have been a lurker on this forum for many years and have learned so much stuff.

This is my first request for help.

I have backed up a DVD to my HDD, but only the .VOB's are of any use. I have checked the VOB's with VLC and they play OK. I want to play them on a stand alone DVD player. Am I able to create .IFO's and .BUP's? I am not particular about creating chapters. I just want to pop it in the machine and watch it.

Thanks in anticipation.

[AlanHK]

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic353705.html

[manono]

I have backed up a DVD to my HDD, but only the .VOB's are of any use.

Obviously that's not true since it's not a DVD without the IFOs and BUPs, and won't play in your DVD player without them. Why can't you go back to the DVD and get the rest of the files?

Me, I'd demux (DGIndex) and then reauthor (Muxman).

[captainzog]

I have backed up a DVD to my HDD, but only the .VOB's are of any use.

Obviously that's not true since it's not a DVD without the IFOs and BUPs, and won't play in your DVD player without them. Why can't you go back to the DVD and get the rest of the files?

Me, I'd demux (DGIndex) and then reauthor (Muxman).

It is true. And I'll explain what I've done. The DVD in question was ripped using RipIt4Me. Its a Disney DVD, and as you know the kids are not too carefull, so I wanted a copy that they can play with. When I used RipIt4Me it reports that the DVD has 46 GB of stuff on there. Everything seems to be there several times. I chose to rip the four .VOB's that have the main movie on them. I have not tried to select the .IFO & .BUP files to see what happens. I may try that next.

I have followed the link that was posted by "AlanHK", thanks Alan, and used IfoEdit. This has created a DVD that plays on my stand alone player.

QED.

[manono]

It's not true. What you got was a useless set of VOBs that you can't do anything with without reauthoring to DVD. Next time use a more up-to-date decrypter. One like DVDFab HD Decrypter.

[captainzog]

It's not true. What you got was a useless set of VOBs that you can't do anything with without reauthoring to DVD. Next time use a more up-to-date decrypter. One like DVDFab HD Decrypter.

OK, so according to you, its not a DVD without the IFO's and .BUP's. Well DVD stands, amongst other things, for Digital Versatile Disc. So no matter what files are on there, its still a DVD. What I have is a DVD with .VOB files on there. So I am right and you are mistaken.

Otherwise, thanks for the info on DVDFab HD Decrypter.

[guns1inger]

Semantics, and pointless ones at that.

It is not a compliant DVD Video disc without the IFO and BUP files. The VOB file contain all the assets - video, audio, sub-pictures etc. - and the IFOs describe which track is what language, where the chapter points are, what titles are in what titleset - all the information that is required by a DVD player to play the disc. No IFO/BUP, no compliant disc.

Some software players will play back just VOBs, and most will do it badly. Some DVD players will play a single VOB on it's own if burned as a data disc.

No reputable software will burn a list of VOBs as a DVD Video disc (using the correct file system etc) without the IFO files being present.

So what you have is a DVD Data disc with VOB files on it. Which is fine if you just want a backup copy of some VOB files.

You do not have a compliant DVD Video disc.

[AlanHK]

I have backed up a DVD to my HDD, but only the .VOB's are of any use.

This is really the issue, not whether it "is a DVD".

It's not just that DVD players insist on an IFO file as a token to allow you to play the VOB, they need it to tell them what is in it and how to interpret it.
VOB files can and often do contain much more than a single video and audio stream.

A simple IFO can be (re)created by making some assumptions, as above linked, but if you look at the many options that can be set by IFOedit, you can see that it does contain "useful" information about aspect ratios, languages, subtitles, sequence of playing, etc.

And considering that the IFO files are a few kB, compared to gigabytes for the VOBs, there is no reason not to back them up with the rest even if you don't think you have an immediate use for them.

[wulf109]

IFOedit will create the ifo and bup files. Just rename the files VTS_01 and use Ifoedit's Create ifo button.

[jimmalenko]

I have not tried to select the .IFO & .BUP files

That's your problem.

If it's main movie only then IFOEdit should work.

[captainzog]

Semantics, and pointless ones at that.

It is not a compliant DVD Video disc without the IFO and BUP files. The VOB file contain all the assets - video, audio, sub-pictures etc. - and the IFOs describe which track is what language, where the chapter points are, what titles are in what titleset - all the information that is required by a DVD player to play the disc. No IFO/BUP, no compliant disc.

Some software players will play back just VOBs, and most will do it badly. Some DVD players will play a single VOB on it's own if burned as a data disc.

No reputable software will burn a list of VOBs as a DVD Video disc (using the correct file system etc) without the IFO files being present.

So what you have is a DVD Data disc with VOB files on it. Which is fine if you just want a backup copy of some VOB files.

You do not have a compliant DVD Video disc.

Thanks, point takne. Its just that the other bloke was more interesed in trying to show how much he knew, rather than help. You get them in all aspects of life.

I have used AnyDVD with some success. On some disks it says there is over 70 Gbyte of stuff on there, which is obviously wrong, and part of the copy protection. How do I get around this? I've just tried DVDSmith which has backed up the DVD but it has produced the .ifo, .bup & VOD files twice.

Cheers

[manono]

Its just that the other bloke was more interesed in trying to show how much he knew, rather than help.

Nice try. In both of my posts I gave what I thought was helpful advice as well as refuting your absurd claim. guns1inger was just as critical of you but explained why you were wrong in more detail.

That said, did you have a chance to try DVDFab HD Decrypter on them? It's a bit slow these days with the updates but should work unless the movies are the very newest. And if they are the newest, then AnyDVD should work if yours is up-to-date. The latest version, v.6.6.2.2 beta was just released 2 days ago. Are you using it?

[captainzog]

Its just that the other bloke was more interesed in trying to show how much he knew, rather than help.

Nice try. In both of my posts I gave what I thought was helpful advice as well as refuting your absurd claim. guns1inger was just as critical of you but explained why you were wrong in more detail.

That said, did you have a chance to try DVDFab HD Decrypter on them? It's a bit slow these days with the updates but should work unless the movies are the very newest. And if they are the newest, then AnyDVD should work if yours is up-to-date. The latest version, v.6.6.2.2 beta was just released 2 days ago. Are you using it?

Thank you for your admission that you were critical of me, that's the point I was trying to convey. All I wanted was help, not "criticism", over the semantics of my post. Leaving our differences aside, and wishing to draw a line underneath it. thanks for your advice.

I shall do what you suggested and try the DVDFab HD Decrypter/AnyDVD combo and report back.

The last time I tried ripping one of these, the DVD looked like it had about 40 Gbytes on it, and all the files had multiple appearances. In the end I did an analog copy, which the kids find just as enjoyable (and as easy to damage).

Still, I would like to do a "proper" copy, and I shall keep trying.

[sambat]

Thank you for your admission that you were critical of me, that's the point I was trying to convey.

That wasn't critical;try Doom9 - they would go on like you had groped Mother Teresa

[bendixG15]

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