before I capture, is this 16mm strip silent or with sound?

[mazinz]

This is probably not the right forum and I am not sure where this topic would fall under as it is sort of "pre-capturing" info that I need.

I purchased this ABC tv 4:30 movie bumper reel a while back. It is 16mm. I have dealt with super 8, 8mm and super 8 sound before but never messed with 16mm (this being my first).

I have a very old 16mm projector and before I do any type of capturing or attempts with this projector (or if I end up using my scanner). Can any of you who have dealt with this format tell me if the clip (image) I have below is silent or with sound?

[redwudz]

It should look like this if it has a optical audio strip:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_mm_film

[mazinz]

Thank you for the info. To be sure would this hold true for all 16mm, or did some of the major studios (like ABC) use a different sound format for the 16? I have read info about some having a magnetic track of some kind (but I cannot find any pictures online of 16 film with this sound version)

[redwudz]

Maybe someone else could give you advice on different 16 mm formats. If it was magnetic, you would likely see a red oxide strip down the side. The Wikipedia article above may give you better info. All the sound ones I was around had the optical strip.

[mazinz]

I did check the wikipedia site (via your link) and read the info. It more or less seems like my strip is a single perforation but silent (while in most cases would have been used for mono sound). That skinny side is the same color as the rest/regular film, not redish or a different shade of black.

I also have to take into consideration that it is a bumper/promo reel which showed the name of the film show and usually (at least back in the 70's and 80's) were silent

looks like my question might be answered. Thanks again for the info and the right in front of my face to check wikipedia

[edDV]

If this was late 70's to 80's, they would have transferred to tape for on air playback and added sound then. The bumper was probably produced on film.

[mazinz]

If this was late 70's to 80's, they would have transferred to tape for on air playback and added sound then. The bumper was probably produced on film.

It would make sense. The film has a bit of lead before the pic above appears, and this includes a one frame sketched in writing of what this was used for. The projector is super old, but supposedly works. I hope for the best with the projector and that it does not crap out or destroy the film because if this ends up being only 1-3 mins I doubt many places would convert it over (most do a minium of at least 100-400 feet of film)