Hello All. I need a Free Backup Software to replace DVD Fab. Any ideas?

[jagabo]

you and i and everyone in here are "all of us". if it was just me,then your statement would be true

The creators of DvdFab owe you, me, and all other non paying customers absolutely nothing. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

[Bamahusker]

they were nice enough to create this for us weren't they? what's hard not to understand about that? if it takes forever to update,why even have the software at all? anyway,let's end this please.

[jagabo]

they were nice enough to create this for us weren't they?

No, they created the program for their paying customers.

[Bamahusker]

ok well why did they create a free program then? as i mentioned earlier,companies either create a free one only ,a paid one only,or both. The way i see it,they should continue to update the free one almost as much as the paid one. otherwise the program is worthless. and anyone can tell you that. just like if they update the free one more then the paid one. no one would want the pay one anymore because the free one gets all the updates. I'm just saying,you know? Anyway,i'll just conclude that this is beyond my control and just end it because obviously i'm never going to find another one as good as Fab. Anyway,thanks for your time.

[jagabo]

ok well why did they create a free program then?

It's advertising. They hope you'll like the program and decide to buy it. If the free version did everything you want you would have no reason to buy it. For them it's a balancing act of giving you enough to evaluate and like the program but not so much that you decide not to purchase the full version. Until you purchase the full version they owe you nothing. As a non paying customer your only recourse is not to use the program if you don't like it.

[Bamahusker]

ok well you are right in a sense,but there is also such a thing as Free and Free Trial as well. this was a Free version. not a Free Trial. otherwise i would have either moved on to something else that is free,or i'd have paid for it. But i do understand what you mean though. anyway,let's just end it here and i apologize of i started anything and we can move on to something else. sound good?

[JohnnyBob]

Nothing is free forever. Eventually they'll try to get your money. I believe it's time to move on, and forget about DVD Fab because they'll only make it more difficult and more expensive. I'm looking at AnyDVD now, but doubt I will buy it. Perhaps soon there will be no good current ripping freeware available anywhere.

[Bamahusker]

i hope so johnny. and AnyDVD is just as expensive as Fab,so i don't know if i'll go that route yet. If anyone knows of any good free ones,feel free to reply. Thanks.

[fritzi93]

I confess I never much liked DVDFabHDDecrypter. The vast majority of DVD discs can still be decrypted with DVDShrink, DVDDecrypter, et. al. For the odd one with new protection, one could resort to Fab, but it often would remap incorrectly, particularly when doing main movie . So the few times I used it, I'd do full disc, run FixVTS, and then open the rip with DVDShrink.

But in every case, I also found it possible to do a workaround to get movie only. The first one I remember was "The Forgotten", an early example of ARccOS protection. Easy, delete the first cell in DVDDecrypter, or use start/end frames in DVDShrink to do the same. There were threads here about that one. Casino Royale and Wall-E were discussed as well. IIRC, you could use the old DVDShrink 2.3 on Casino Royale, reauthor, choose VTS_01_0.IFO, delete the first second of the movie, backup, and recreate the VIDEO_TS.IFO with the old freeware DVDFab. Wall-E was more difficult but doable. If one is determined and willing to learn, workarounds are always possible. Often people will post their methods.

If you think you may be getting into backing up Blu-Rays, AnyDVD_HD is the way to go, and is the only reliable method at present. It's a bit pricey, but what's it worth to you? For DVD-Video the standard AnyDVD is cheaper.

It's often asked, why bother backing up?
For me, two reasons:

1) Multiple viewing locations. I don't want to hunt for the disc.
2) Menus, adverts, warning screens and PUOs. I hate them.

[jagabo]

It's often asked, why bother backing up?
For me, two reasons:

1) Multiple viewing locations. I don't want to hunt for the disc.
2) Menus, adverts, warning screens and PUOs. I hate them. :boom:

#2 is why I back up my discs. I create an autoplay movie only disc. Like you, I find DvdDecrypter still works most of the time.

[Bamahusker]

Fritzi,you are right about DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter. At times if Fab does not handle it,i can run decrypter and it'll still work. problem with Fix_VTS is that too is similar to Fab. Not everything works on that either. and just like Shrink and Decrypter,Fix_VTS no longer updates,so it looks like no matter how you look at it,there's always going to be an issue. I guess as long as 98% of the DVD's out there still work on Fab,i guess i'll live with it for now.

[Seeker47]

Nothing is free forever. Eventually they'll try to get your money. I believe it's time to move on, and forget about DVD Fab because they'll only make it more difficult and more expensive. I'm looking at AnyDVD now, but doubt I will buy it. Perhaps soon there will be no good current ripping freeware available anywhere.

Agree with fritzi93, two posts down from yours.
But wasn't there a thread here not very long ago where it was mentioned that AnyDVD was in a mad scramble to collect whatever revenue they could (perpetual 20 % off "Sale"), because some open source alternative to their program was due to be released in the not-distant future ?

I also have to note that Fengtao is a Chinese company, and in the PRC lifting intellectual property without recompense is out-in-the-open major commerce. Despite some legitimate uses, there has always been a trainload of "wink wink, nod nod" about this product. (No doubt you could say that about any of the rippers, but for them it's in spades. No one else lets you reformulate the output nine ways from Sunday.) I'm not going to make the next logical connection here, but you could probably guess . . . .

[Bamahusker]

i see.

[Bamahusker]

andtheydo

[JohnnyBob]

Getting down to the nitty gritty, I just checked, and after applying their 20% discounts (good til Nov 15), the price in US$ for a lifetime license is $60.48 for DVDFab (DVD to DVD) and $76.40 for AnyDVD. It seems to me they should pay us these amounts to stop our bitchin'. Ahem...

[Bamahusker]

you go girlfriend.

[videobread]

Under the heading - No honor among thieves:

A search of "DVDFab" on thepiratebay.org shows a number listings for the pay version of DVD Fab with key. Am I the only one who sees humor in this? The pirates are stealing from the pirates on The Pirate Bay. Hollywood is losing revenue to piracy and Fengtao Software feels that they can not be expected to provide pirating software for nothing! They have expenses! Maybe Fengtao will join the major studios' lawsuits and prosecute for illegally downloading their proprietary product.

[Bamahusker]

hehe.

[Noahtuck]

@ videobread

I was thinking that the other day, that doing something like this may just push even more people to pirate their software

[Bamahusker]

you go girl.

[freebird73717]

you go girl.

oh please don't do that anymore.

[Bamahusker]

lol ok. i just thought it was funny and thought i'd use it. sorry.

[Seeker47]

Under the heading - No honor among thieves:

A search of "DVDFab" on thepiratebay.org shows a number listings for the pay version of DVD Fab with key. Am I the only one who sees humor in this? The pirates are stealing from the pirates on The Pirate Bay. Hollywood is losing revenue to piracy and Fengtao Software feels that they can not be expected to provide pirating software for nothing! They have expenses! Maybe Fengtao will join the major studios' lawsuits and prosecute for illegally downloading their proprietary product.

Yeah, that was essentially the point I was making in the earlier post. The irony is kind of overwhelming here, isn't it ? How would they (Fengtao) muster much of a case on that score, while keeping a straight face ?

Your reference is a bit dated though, as Piratebay has been a ghost ship for some time now. Still, for anyone inclined to swing that way, RS and MegaUpload are your friends. Just don't forget to pack a lot of bug spray (A/V and anti-spyware), and by all means steer clear of those keygens ! Even the H1N1 vaccine (when available) won't help you there.

[Bamahusker]

funny thing as well is when you go to the order page,it tells you that if anyone is selling copies at Ebay,or anywhere but dvdfab,these are illegal. yet people are getting it from Piratebay. lol.

[Noahtuck]

Your reference is a bit dated though, as Piratebay has been a ghost ship for some time now.

How do you figure ?

I was there yesterday

[Bamahusker]

seeker,Piratebay is still there.

[ricoman]

never mind, my bad. didn't read the whole thread and repeated some one else.

[Bamahusker]

just got a reply not long ago saying try Clone DVD and Any DVD free for 21 days. that's 55 bucks i'm afraid. But thanks anyway rico.

[videobread]

I guess the question is, Is it morally wrong to steal from thieves?

Much to my surprise , a search of "AnyDVD" on thepiratebay.org shows multiple results. What nerve. To pirate the hard work of other pirates! People in China are starving by God! One listing that caught my eye was, "AnyDVD & AnyDVD HD v6.6.0.3 FINAL + Reg By ChattChitto". It has 297 seeds and 32 leaches. I am mortified. Have these Cretons no sense of justice and fair play. It is one thing to steal from Hollywood and yet another steal from hard working programmers in China!

[redwudz]

Since this thread seems to run it's course and is running toward Warez discussions, Locked.

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