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  1. Member
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    So installed Windows 7 and the up to date K-Lite FULL codec pack with media player classic home theater, when playing xvid files in full screen compared to previously I notice alot more pixelation and blotchyness than I had previously in Vista or XP.

    Could it be a weird settings issue or is it a windows 7 thing?
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  2. Member yoda313's Avatar
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    Codec packs are not recommended by veteran users on this website.

    Try mediaplayerclassic or vlc. They have internal codecs.
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  3. Member Ethlred's Avatar
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    Deblocking is probably turned off.

    Get rid of K-Lite. Though it sometimes works for some. Unfortunately it often screws things up. In most cases installing ffdshow would have got you the better results and less problems than a codec pack.

    Install KMP player or Media Player Classic or VLC.

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    Originally Posted by Ethlred
    In most cases installing ffdshow would have got you the better results and less problems than a codec pack.
    yep. fully agree
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    Thank you guys for the fast replys. Forgive me but I don't know much about this stuff so I'm asking again!

    I tried playing an xvid video before installing K-Lite and it was exactly the same as after. So is the windows 7 built in codecs any good or is it just my pc?

    Do you suggest for me to uninstall the K-Lite codec pack and install ffdshow and does ffdshow come with any codecs like the xvid codec or well it use the built in windows 7 xvid codec once I uninstall the codec pack?
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    Be sure to get the latest WHQL certified drivers for your graphics card.

    From MPCHC select View -> Options -> Playback -> Output. From the DirectShow Video box try the different renders. Especially VMR9 Renderless and EVR Custom Pres. You have to exit MPCHC and restart it for the change to take effect. Also try the different Resizers in the VMR7/9 settings section. It sounds like you're getting the Nearest Neighbor filter now.
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  7. Man of Steel freebird73717's Avatar
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    damn. Sorry I didn't read your first post very well. Media Player Classic Home Cinema has it's own built in codecs. That's why you didn't see a difference in picture quality. Follow jagabo's advice for fine tuning mpchc.

    also ffdshow is not a codec pack.
    Originally Posted by VideoHelp's Tool Page
    ffdshow is a DirectShow decoding filter for decompressing AVI, DivX, XviD, MKV, MP4, WMV, MPG, MPEG2(SVCD, DVD), AVC/H264, AC3, DTS, AAC with image postprocessing like video noise removing filters and audio postprocessing. Over 70 bugs have been fixed, codecs have been updated, and support for a few new formats has been added in the tryouts. Vista is now supported.
    FFdshow is one of the first things I install on a new pc. Very useful for video processing.
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  8. Member porfitron's Avatar
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    Windows 7 can decode MPEG-4 ASP files, but if you want to give another decoder a shot, you can install DivX 7 for free. It includes directshow filters that will allow you to use its decoder.

    Also the DivX Plus Tech Preview: MKV on Windows 7, which is included in DivX 7, has been working out pretty well for Windows 7 users wanting to play MKVs or stream to an Xbox360. It's NOT a codec pack - it actually is a splitter that lets Windows decode the H.264 video bitstream with its own decoders. It's free from DivX here:
    http://www.divx.com/en/windows-7

    It's been out since the Windows 7 beta, so you'll find lots of feedback in the DivX Labs forums on how to configure it to fit your needs.
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    Hi,

    I have been hving the same problem. Since Windows 7 everything is Pixelised to an extent that some content has actually become unbearable while previously it was average-good. I mean even classics are pixelated to an extent that Audrey Hepburn does not look the way she was. Please help me save Audrey....

    I have tried ...

    Installing
    FFdshow
    Dix 7
    VLC Player
    Media Player Classic
    Windows MEdia Player 12
    Nero 7

    Loads of other stuff that came bundled with
    AutoGK
    Make MKV
    Handbrake

    I have tried everything above but nothing works.

    thanks in advance... ali
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    As you're apparently having the problem with VLC, which uses its own codecs and not the codecs/filters installed on the system, it sounds like it may be more a problem with your video setup than with the codecs (unless your videos are or have become corrupt, somehow). Have you made sure that your video card drivers are up-to-date and are certified (or at least mentioned as working properly with) for Windows 7?

    I don't use 7, so I probably wouldn't be of much more help.
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    Originally Posted by alimustafakhan View Post
    I have been hving the same problem. Since Windows 7 everything is Pixelised... I have tried ...

    Installing
    FFdshow
    Dix 7
    VLC Player
    Media Player Classic
    Windows MEdia Player 12
    Nero 7

    Loads of other stuff that came bundled with
    AutoGK
    Make MKV
    Handbrake
    Did you try a different output device? And make sure you have the latest WHQL certified drivers for your graphics card. In MPCHC:

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    In the DirectShow Video box try especially VMR7 renderless and VMR9 renderless and EVR Custom Pres. In the "VMR7/9 (renderless)..." box try the different Resizer and Surface options. Many of these options require that you exit and restart MPCHC for the change to take effect.
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    Hi,

    I tried everything, right from uninstalling VLC to adjustments jagabo suggested. Nothing worked. So I thought I just might reinstall Windows 7 clean out the drive and then see. After reinstalling Windows 7 it turns out that the problem is not with Windows 7,but VLC player. Hence one must not try to install VLC player on Windows 7, as this was among the first things I did when I installed Windows 7 on my PC. It is also helpfull to install the Full Klite Codec Pack on Windows 7 as it helps WMP to show almost all kinds of videos.

    Anybody with same problem try doing the same. It worked for me.

    Best Regards... Ali
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    VLC doesn't make any alterations to the system's video setup, codecs and filters, with one exception - the installer does try to grab most of the video file and disc image file associations and set them to open with VLC, if you allow it to do that. That's about it.

    Since you already had VLC installed when upgrading to Win7, you possibly could have needed to reset/delete your VLC settings. They do tend to become corrupt, sometimes. Or there could have been something among the settings that didn't agree with Win7's setup.

    And installing a codec pack is still not a good idea.
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    Hi Ai,

    I do not understand this, I had uninstalled the VLC player and deleted everything, even the installation download. However the poor quality continued, with all pictures coming pixelated. Hence it was something that VLC did which was not working as when I installed almost everything exactly the same except VLC it worked. This leaves VLC in very suspicious position.
    Best Regards... Ali
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    I run VLC (32 bit version) on Win7 Ultimate 64 bit without problems.
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    Originally Posted by alimustafakhan View Post
    Hi Ai,

    I do not understand this, I had uninstalled the VLC player and deleted everything, even the installation download. However the poor quality continued, with all pictures coming pixelated. Hence it was something that VLC did which was not working as when I installed almost everything exactly the same except VLC it worked. This leaves VLC in very suspicious position.
    Best Regards... Ali
    When you're playing in VLC, or any player?

    If it is/was in VLC only, uninstalling VLC doesn't remove or delete VLC's settings, hidden in the 'vlc' folder in your Application Data folder, as I recall. You can try resetting the settings, either by using the option (button) in VLC's settings dialog, or by telling it to reset/delete the settings when you're installing VLC.

    If it was in all your players... as I mentioned, VLC doesn't touch the video setup at all, for the most part.

    If you reformatted and installed Win7 without upgrading from a previous version of Windows, this time, and the problem hasn't appeared, it could be that when you upgraded, previously, something from the previous setup interfered with the playback under Win7, was corrupted, or needed to be reconfigured.
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  17. Member lacywest's Avatar
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    Try installing ... http://www.mpcstar.com/?lang=en_us ... it also installs FFdshow and then install the newest version of FFDshow because FFDshow has been updated just lately ... but MPCSTAR 4.2 ... has not been updated for awhile now.
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    Originally Posted by Ai Haibara View Post
    Originally Posted by alimustafakhan View Post
    Hi Ai,

    I do not understand this, I had uninstalled the VLC player and deleted everything, even the installation download. However the poor quality continued, with all pictures coming pixelated. Hence it was something that VLC did which was not working as when I installed almost everything exactly the same except VLC it worked. This leaves VLC in very suspicious position.
    Best Regards... Ali
    When you're playing in VLC, or any player?

    If it is/was in VLC only, uninstalling VLC doesn't remove or delete VLC's settings, hidden in the 'vlc' folder in your Application Data folder, as I recall. You can try resetting the settings, either by using the option (button) in VLC's settings dialog, or by telling it to reset/delete the settings when you're installing VLC.

    If it was in all your players... as I mentioned, VLC doesn't touch the video setup at all, for the most part.

    If you reformatted and installed Win7 without upgrading from a previous version of Windows, this time, and the problem hasn't appeared, it could be that when you upgraded, previously, something from the previous setup interfered with the playback under Win7, was corrupted, or needed to be reconfigured.
    I think corruption might be the case then, because when I installed Windows 7 for the first time it was an upgrade but when I did it for the second time it was put in after I had formatted the previous drive, hence a new OS all through.
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