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  1. Member
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    I have tried quite a few different programs to backup my Blu-ray discs and each one of them seems to have there Pros and Cons.

    Here is what I would like in the perfect BR backup solution. File sizes between 5-8GB, rip time between 2-6 hours, 720P resolution and two different audio streams (2 CH Stereo and Digital)

    I have tried these solutions and done of them seem to do everything I'm looking for. Can any of you recommend a solution that will fit all of my criteria?

    1. RipBot - Fast, Small file size, but only one audio stream
    2. MakeMKV - Fast, multiple audio streams, but VERY LARGE file size.
    - I used Handbreak to resize the file created with MakeMKV and it ran for about 16 hours, this is way too long.

    What do you think is the best and fastest software to backup Blu-ray discs?

    Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide.
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    Another option would be to use BD Rebuilder to shrink the blu-ray and then use MakeMKV or Clown_BD to make one mkv or ts file. But I guess you can't convert to 2ch stereo then.

    What video encoding settings are you using in handbrake ? 2-pass encoding etc. Cause 16 hours sounds a bit long.
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    I have used RipBot264 for Blu Ray work but I agree, it would be nice if it could support more than one audio stream. I usually make the main video and audio into a .mkv file compressed via x264 (leaving the audio as-is if possible) and then I use tsmuxer to demux the other audio tracks and then add them in to my .mkv with mkvmerge GUI (part of the mkvtoolnix package.) It works, but it would be nice to be able to do this in fewer steps.
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    I'm using the handbreak setting you outlined in your guide "How to make a single MKV from a Blu-ray (and also how to shrink it)" I'm using a HTPC with a Core 2 Duo 2.4 processor with 4GB of RAM, do you think this is what is cause the long handbreak processing time? I have a Quad Core 2.5GHz Windows 7 64bit PC with 8GB of ram. I'm thinking about trying MakeMKV and handbreak on this system to see how much fast it is, but don't want to tie it up for more then 4-6 hours at a time since it is my main PC.

    I'm starting to think using RipBot and getting only one audio stream will be ok just to save time and effort. I can always watch the movie from the disc if I want to hear DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD. Correct me if I'm wrong, but RipBot only allows AC3 5.1 audio and not DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD?
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    Originally Posted by minerva.thegift
    I have used RipBot264 for Blu Ray work but I agree, it would be nice if it could support more than one audio stream. I usually make the main video and audio into a .mkv file compressed via x264 (leaving the audio as-is if possible) and then I use tsmuxer to demux the other audio tracks and then add them in to my .mkv with mkvmerge GUI (part of the mkvtoolnix package.) It works, but it would be nice to be able to do this in fewer steps.
    About how long does tsmuxer take to demux the audio tracks? Then how long does it take to add them back into the mkv file with mkvmerge?
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    Originally Posted by WPlotkin
    I'm using the handbreak setting you outlined in your guide "How to make a single MKV from a Blu-ray (and also how to shrink it)" I'm using a HTPC with a Core 2 Duo 2.4 processor with 4GB of RAM, do you think this is what is cause the long handbreak processing time? I have a Quad Core 2.5GHz Windows 7 64bit PC with 8GB of ram. I'm thinking about trying MakeMKV and handbreak on this system to see how much fast it is, but don't want to tie it up for more then 4-6 hours at a time since it is my main PC.

    I'm starting to think using RipBot and getting only one audio stream will be ok just to save time and effort. I can always watch the movie from the disc if I want to hear DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD. Correct me if I'm wrong, but RipBot only allows AC3 5.1 audio and not DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD?
    How exactly do you "tie up" a quad core w/ 8GB of ram? lol

    Any of those programs can run in the background while you do what ever else you need to do in the foreground w/ a quad

    in my most humble of opinions

    Try it!

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    Good Point ocgw! I guess I'm always a little nervous that multitasking while processing video files will cause video playback to be choppy, but then again I have never tried it on a system with 8GB of RAM and a Quad Core processor. I will give it a try.

    Thanks
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    Originally Posted by WPlotkin
    About how long does tsmuxer take to demux the audio tracks? Then how long does it take to add them back into the mkv file with mkvmerge?
    Well, on my computer (i7 920 with 6GB RAM) it took about 9 minutes to demux the audio (that included converting it to AC3 from TrueHD) and then about 2-3 minutes to mux it in to the video. That was on a 2 hour 10 minute movie.
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    Wow that's fast. Is there anyway to keep the TrueHD stream within the MKV file while still keeping the file size rather small or do you always have to convert TrueHD to AC3?
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