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  1. Member
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    Im using wondershare on my mac to store them on a external hardrive so i can bring it anywhere i go. I've been using apple tv mpeg-4 720x432 but was wondering if i use h.264 1280x720 will it be better quality. It seems to take about 2 times as long to copy the movies if i use h.264. Or is there a better format to use? Sprry if this is an easy topic.. im just kinda new to this and theres so much info on here i dont even know where to start...
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    What is your source ?

    If it is SD (DVD or downloaded material) then there is nothing to be gained by upscaling to 1280 x 720. The quality will likely be lower, and if it is taking only twice as long, almost certainly the quality will be far lower.
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    All my sources are my dvds.
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    Then keep it simple and encode them as SD resolutions (i.e. 720 x nnn). Unless you are using a super-resolution type upsampler, simply resizing up to 720p resolution will do nothing by require far larger bitrates while producing a far softer image.

    I would still encode to H264 for the best quality/size, however I would probably use quality based encoding. Unless you are intending to play the files back on an Apple TV, I would avoid using Apple TV settings as they are of medium quality due to limitations imposed by the device.
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    So the larger the bitrate the softer the images...


    Using the same dvd here are my options..

    mpeg 2 movie -- 720 ---- 4000 kbps
    avi xvid-----------640 ----- 1500
    m4v Mpeg 4 -----640 ----- 1500
    Mpeg 4 movie---640 ----- 1500
    Apple tv mp4 --- 720 ---- 1500 kbps
    appletv h264 --- 720----- 4000 kbps

    Are the larger file sized ones just wasting my time and theyre all just as good.

    I'm playing the movies back off of the external hardrive i have. I dont really care about the size of the files but just quality and time that it takes. Thanks again for your help!
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    Not the larger the bitrate. The softness of the image comes from enlarging to 1280 x 720.

    The only two I would question are the mpeg-2 files, where 4000 seems to be on the low side, but it depends on the actual video, and the H264 @ 4000, which seems high.

    If you convert the mpeg-2 to H264 then you can probably get away with 1500 or thereabouts.

    The Xvid/mpeg-4 (non-H264) material will only lose quality from being re-encoded, and probably doewsn't deserve a lower bitrate unless the quality is very low already.
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