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  1. Member
    Join Date: Sep 2009
    Location: United States
    I've recorded a video that will need to start playing the moment(or close to) someone lands on the page. I've been trying for 2 weeks to render the .avi video in a format that has the right balance of speed and quality, but have yet to find something that works.

    This isn't my site, but here's an example of what I need my video to do. http://www.startapreschool.com I've purchased a licensed JW Player, and I've been trying MP4, FLV, and WMV with various custom settings(lower bitrate, quality settings, etc). It either takes forever to load or it looks like I recorded the video using a camera from the 80's.

    I'm using Sony Vegas Pro 9, and I would really appreciate it if someone could give me the exact settings that I need to use in Vegas Pro 9 to make this work.
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  2. Always Watching guns1inger's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2004
    Location: Miskatonic U
    Well, the example you posted doesn't start mmediately - it has a loading time that is determined, at least in part, on the connection speed of the user. When the video does play, it is not the smoothest I have seen, and it is soft. This would suggest that the framerate has been lowered - prehaps to around 20 fps, and the resolution is probably lower that what you see on the screen.

    As much as I like Vegas, I would probably not be using it to render the final video. I would probably render out of Vegas at the highest quality I could, then use a specialist converter to produce the flv video for the site. If you are on a tight budget, try Riva FLV Encoder or WinFF
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  3. maybe try the sony avc render templates for internet 4:3 or 16/9. they should start playing before buffering the entire video.

    if you make flv it has to be the fast start type. sorenson squeeze can make those.
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  4. Member
    Join Date: Sep 2007
    Location: Canada
    That preschool example starts immediately for me.

    As guns1inger said connection speed (server up, client down), must be ruled out, as well you can set a server side delay (for buffering) or set it to zero.

    If your video is in .mp4 container, the moov atom has to be placed at the beginning for it to stream immediately (before fully downloading or before the translucent download progress bar finishes). I'm not sure if vegas does this, but if you re-wrap the video with mp4box (YAMB is the gui) , it automatically does this for you. I use vegas too, but not to render.
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  5. Always Watching guns1inger's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2004
    Location: Miskatonic U
    When I posted yesterday I was at my folks. They live in the country, and are limited to a 256/64kbps ADSL connection. The loading time is much better here are home, but I still get a brief countdown as the pre-buffering happens.
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  6. Member
    Join Date: Dec 2009
    Location: Hungary
    Hey,sorry for bothering you with the question, but I have no clue what's going on..

    I've rendered a 2 mins long .avi file, and it turned out 457 Mb, which is HUGE. What shall I do? I've used the normal HD settings, nothing special.
    Thanks!
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  7. aBigMeanie aedipuss's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2005
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    filesize=bitrate x time. 457mb = bitrate x 120sec so your bitrate was around 3.8mbps or 3800kbps. if the video is high quality HD 1280x720p you might try around 1000kbps total video + audio bitrate.

    lower bitrate makes smaller files.
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  8. Member
    Join Date: Dec 2009
    Location: Hungary
    Thanks so much!

    Well, I've been searching for quite a long time where I can change the bitrate in vegas 9, but couldn't find.. I know I'm stupid, even googled it, without result. Someone said there's no chance to change bitrate by .avi-s, but according to your prev. post, it's not true.
    I have AVIdemux, too, if it's better. I don't know yet.
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  9. aBigMeanie aedipuss's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2005
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    after you select render as, then type, and template, click on the "custom" button. in the popup, video tab and audio tab, the bitrate is adjustable.
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