Vdub Clean up on fuzzy videos transfered to dvd

[Konfusion]

i have some stuff recorded from the early 90s to vhs that i put on dvd then transfered over to the computer and want to remove the fuzzyness. Can someone give me a filter list to make these better.

here is both things all the videos look like this

Video 1
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OJ6E7VXF

Video 2
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MHR16WE2

i just want to clean them up then put them back on dvd.

thank you

[zoobie]

it's probably best to get the footage from the vhs and start over...do you still have the tapes?

[Konfusion]

my equipment isnt the best so need to use something on the computer

[jagabo]

Some filters to look at:

Neat Video ($$$ and slow, but good noise filtering)
MSU Smart Deblocking
Flaxen VHS filter
2d Cleaner
levels

quick Neat Video results: neat.avi

Frame 116 before:


and after Neat Video:


The other video needs an inverse telecine.

[Konfusion]

i ended up getting that neat filter omg makes a huge difference. now the other one im having problems with i did the reverse to 24 frames or whatever and saved to a uncompress avi and looks great but everytime i try to put it back to mpeg to put back to dvd it looks like everything goes red and starts to bleed.

[jagabo]

Did you crop the frame at all? If so, be sure to leave at least a mod4 (integer multiple of 4) frames size.

Make sure your are using a valid frame size for MPEG2/DVD. What program are you using to encode MPEG2?

[Konfusion]

ya i croped it to 704x480 then did the thing to 720x480

i tryed several mpeg programs
tmpeg 2.5
main concept
avs video converter

maybe i dunno the settings

but all i needed for the other one was just inverse telcine?

[Konfusion]

nevermind i figured it out. i had to turn off deinterlace

[jagabo]

Both 704x480 and 720x480 should be fine with any MPEG encoder.

Deinterlace filters often just blur the two fields together. A good IVTC would be best for your second video. AviSynth's TFM() and TDecimate() work pretty well. I'd use DgIndex to build an index file then:

MPEG2Source("filename.d2v")
TFM()
TDecimate()

Then any other filtering.

[Konfusion]

ya thats what i was doing. neat video does wonders but is so damn slow

[themaster1]

i'd use some unsharp mask aswell and photoshop for the very degraded parts of the tapes, these are the tools.