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  1. Member
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    i have a couple files of avchd and want to burn onto a dual layer dvd. will this play on my sony blu-ray s350. thank you
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    load them into tsmuxer, use the create blu-ray radio button

    burn with udf 2.50 in imgburn or nero

    not all players will accept playback on DVD5 and even fewer on DVD9 - some players are "finicky" on what they accept ; i'm not sure about your particular model
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    ok i have image burn what do u mean by burn with udf 2.50
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    Originally Posted by eric11111
    ok i have image burn what do u mean by burn with udf 2.50
    udf is a file system. You need it for blu-ray compatibility. I actually use nero, but you can select it in imgburn as well, maybe someone else can show you the steps

    here is what it looks like in nero



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    what does the tsmuxer, do to the file
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    It authors the blu-ray file structure ; it will not be compatible with standalone units without it.

    It's similar to how DVD's need to be authored before they can be burned to DVD
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    Keep in mind, blu-ray content on a DvD disc is not standard with blu-ray. It's not really about how finicky the player is, but about how tolerant it is. It doesn't have to accept it and without any AVCHD logo/certification, it's pretty much a variable - it's subject to what the manufacturer has decided to design the player to accept outside of normal BD discs (with blu-ray content) or DvDs (with DvD content) - not what is standard.

    However, any player with the AVCHD logo/certification should accept AVCHD (and likely regular blu-ray content) on a DvD disc. Look for those, or try before you buy.
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    Turn off multisession in Nero too. Sometimes Nero doesn't seem to burn them correctly. It uses short 8+3 names instead of Long names.
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    My Sony BDP-S350 plays BlueRay content burned on DVD-R and DVD+R D\L without problems.
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    Originally Posted by wulf109
    My Sony BDP-S350 plays BlueRay content burned on DVD-R and DVD+R D\L without problems.
    Same here.
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    I've done tests with blu-ray content on DvD on several units. Just from my experience, I find the LG players can pretty much play anything you throw at them flawlessly - even some content that isn't fully blu-ray or AVCHD compliant.

    But, although LG is resilient, and Wulf109 and Johns0 have had success with their players, these DvDs won't play on all units.
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    But, although LG is resilient, and Wulf109 and Johns0 have had success with their players, these DvDs won't play on all units.
    Ya,i bought a sharp bd-hp20u that wouldnt play them so i traded it up for the sony.The only thing i like to find is a program that will make simple menus for avchd dvds that won't re-encode compliant m2ts.
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    I always say with BD players, try before you buy when it comes to blu-ray content onto DvD.
    The only thing i like to find is a program that will make simple menus for avchd dvds that won't re-encode compliant m2ts.
    Yeah, been there. I myself am tired of NeroVision insisting on re-encoding, even fully compliant, HD content - a quality and time penalty to say the least.

    Here's something that shows promise, but speaking of "try before you buy", I can't find a trial download link for it, so I haven't tried it yet.

    http://www.arcsoft.com/public/softwa...p?ProductID=16

    If anyone's tried it, please let us know if it does indeed fulfill on its promise. Even though the price is dirt cheap at $119, I still don't want to give them any money if they're misleading.
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    Originally Posted by PuzZLeR
    If anyone's tried it, please let us know if it does indeed fulfill on its promise. Even though the price is dirt cheap at $119, I still don't want to give them any money if they're misleading.
    Not great TBH, it wants re-encode everything, yet doesn't give you any video encoding options at all. It encodes audio to 2 channel Dolby Digital only.
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    Thanks for your post mh2360. Again, another disappointment, but I'm glad I didn't waste time on it after all then.

    And you can add CyberLink PowerProducer 5 to that list. I experienced the same sort of problems with their trial.
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    Free tool for make AVCHD and Blue-Ray disc with menu (static and motion). Can also combine 2 or more disc in to a single one.
    http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/
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    Originally Posted by PuzZLeR
    If anyone's tried it, please let us know if it does indeed fulfill on its promise. Even though the price is dirt cheap at $119, I still don't want to give them any money if they're misleading.
    It doesn't re-encode the video and audio but produces avchd that jitters and shakes when watching it.
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    Originally Posted by danno78
    Free tool for make AVCHD and Blue-Ray disc with menu (static and motion). Can also combine 2 or more disc in to a single one.
    http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/
    Tried it and doesnt work for me either with powerdvd 8 or my sony blu-ray,tsmuxer blu-ray play no problem when only using the gui version.
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    Sigh...

    It seems that by the time good, and complete, blu-ray software, without having to spend a truckload of cash, ever makes it to us the format will be dead by then.

    Sigh...
    Been away for a while and busy with work the last few months so I had no time for forums. My apologies for any emails I couldn't get to in time - missed you all! :-)
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  20. I'm a Poll Super Moderator johns0's Avatar
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    Update,i tried multiAVCHD after reading that it worked with sony bdp-s350 blu-ray player so what i did was click on create multiBD instead of create multiAVCHD which worked.Seems like using create multiAVCHD creates non compliant files.
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    Originally Posted by johns0
    Originally Posted by danno78
    Free tool for make AVCHD and Blue-Ray disc with menu (static and motion). Can also combine 2 or more disc in to a single one.
    http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/
    Tried it and doesnt work for me either with powerdvd 8 or my sony blu-ray,tsmuxer blu-ray play no problem when only using the gui version
    Used the latest version to make a multi-AVCHD disc without menu. PowerDVD 8 refused to read the disc but was able to open the hard drive folder from which it was burned and play that. Haven't tried it on a friend's Blu-Ray machine yet but after reading your post am fearing the worst. PowerDVD 8 also refused to play a single title AVCHD disc authored in tsMuxeR which I believe multiAVCHD also uses.
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    Originally Posted by PuzZLeR
    Sigh...

    It seems that by the time good, and complete, blu-ray software, without having to spend a truckload of cash, ever makes it to us the format will be dead by then.

    Sigh...
    You have already chosen to bypass the blu-ray format and are experimenting with player features. The blu-ray format is not useful to you for your purpose. You want the divx/xvid model and Sony isn't offering that.
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  23. I'm a Poll Super Moderator johns0's Avatar
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    When you output the folder in the newest multiavchd use blu-ray for bd-r,powerdvd 8 will read the burned disc,when output as avchd for dvd/bd-r powerdvd 8 wont play the burned disc but your blu-ray player will if its avchd ready.
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  24. Member ntscuser's Avatar
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    Originally Posted by johns0
    When you output the folder in the newest multiavchd use blu-ray for bd-r,powerdvd 8 will read the burned disc.
    Do you mean even if it's intended for a blank DVD?

    On a side note there's a lamentable lack of postings here on this subject considering how important it is.
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  25. I'm a Poll Super Moderator johns0's Avatar
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    Been burning my folders that way and my sony 350 plays them.Not much has been discussed on this subject because not many people are into avchd burning,its a relatively new format of authoring and burning and its not that important to most people,just us that are using this format.
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