Hi all,
I bought a new HDD for my system and did a fresh install of WinXP SP2, but now the XP doesn't recognize DVDRW discs on my Optiarc (Sony-NEC) AD-7170A DVD/CD burner... It reads pressed and burned CDs and DVDs with no problem, but can't read any DVDRWs.
I've scoured through the net for workarounds and patches, but none of 'em have worked.
I'm more than sure it has something to do with WinXP, but I can't figure it out: when I connect my old HDD back, everything works fine and I can read any type of disc (CD/CDR/CDRW/DVD/DVDR/DVDRW), so it's not a hardware issue.
I've visually compared the drivers in the old HDD and the new HDD and they're the same generic versions that come with WinXP... I've also compared registry entries for the burner and they're the same as well.
I'm out of ideas... Anyone care to chime in?
Thanks in advance.
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Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face."
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you need to install whatever software you used before to write the rw's. they sound like packet written(drag & drop) dvds. usually some form of roxio, or nero package installs it.
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You must have SP1 on your older setup. That may be the key to work with your burner.
Try a XP with SP1, then a SP2 upgrade. -
Originally Posted by minidv2dvdFrank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face."
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Originally Posted by SingSing
And fighting the urge to upgrade to SP3: leave well enough alone.Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
Oh, one other observation: if I connect a read-only DVD-ROM drive (an old BTC drive) in place of the Optiarc, I can read all media, even the DVDRW that the Optiarc cannot read with the new HDD WinXP install.
The conclusion would be that the new HDD XP install doesn't recognize the Optiarc burner as such and thus cannot read DVDRWs.... But why?Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
But why? because Vista is on sale and you haven't bought it yet..
Delete the Burner and let winz re-install it..
Nero infotool will tell you loads about your drive
DVDinfopro will tell you even more
Not region coding rearing its ugly head, possibly??
or the aspi layer.. try imgburn ..DVDDEcrypter to burn as wellCorned beef is now made to a higher standard than at any time in history.
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Originally Posted by RabidDog
No thanks.
Delete the Burner and let winz re-install it..
Nero infotool will tell you loads about your drive
DVDinfopro will tell you even more
Not region coding rearing its ugly head, possibly??
Region coding has nothing to do with it: I'm just trying to read data from a DVDRW disc.
or the aspi layer.. try imgburn ..DVDDEcrypter to burn as well
There's a possibility.Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
Are you using a 80 wire ide cable? If not try one and if you are buy a new one. 80 wire ide cables can fail. Most of newer ide dvd burners require using a 80 wire ide cable or the drives will not work correctly. What brand is that DVDRW disc that you're using? Some dvd burners are not capable of reading certain DVDRW media.
Have you checked for a firmware upgrade for your drive? SONY no longer makes their own dvd burners, they have a collaboration with NEC to manufacture the drives for them. Check out the SONY or NEC forums at CdFreaks.com and do some research or join and post your question there. SONY & NEC are notorious for not providing firmware upgrades for their drives. -
Originally Posted by budz
ALL the hardware and cables are the same, just a different HDD, and XP has a problem with the Optiarc drive... When I reconnect the original HDD, everything works just fine, no issues with the Optiarc whatsoever.
There's gotta be something missing or wrong with the new XP install, but I have no idea what it is.Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
Originally Posted by RabidDog
The next step is to attach my older Pioneer DVD burner to the new XP install and see if there's a difference. *fingers crossed*Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
Originally Posted by minidv2dvd
any chance the drive and the hdd are on the same ide cable?
The other thing that kills me is how did I get the existing (old HDD) XP setup to work? I don't recall having all these issues with the Optiarc then..... *head scratch*Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
As I suggested buy a NEW 80 wire ide cable because it would determine where or not the drive is defective. Many have bought new ide dvd burners and have had similar problems as you then they buy a new 80 wire ide cable and the drive works correctly. Just my 2 cents! Two each's own!
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Originally Posted by budz
Did make this interesting discovery: when I attached my older Pioneer burner, the new XP HDD install had no problems recognizing my DVDRW discs or any other disc for that matter... So that sort of points to some kind of incompatibility with the Optiarc burner and the new XP SP2 install... But what?
That fact that the Optiarc burner works just fine with the old XP SP2 install says that there's nothing really wrong with the Optiarc burner... Or does it?Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
Originally Posted by bmwracer
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/BusinessProducts/Blu-rayDisc+DVDWriter...iters/DVR-115D
As always just my 2 cents! -
Originally Posted by budz
My suggestion to you is to return the defective drive and buy yourself a PIONEER 115D from the PIONEER website.Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
It sounds like your new XP install does not recognise your drive as a burner. HAve you tried looking at the windows driver versions on both HDD's?
It could possibly (10% chance) be a power issue.. New drive takes more power therefore leaving Burner marginal, able to read but not write?
Boot up LIve LINUX CD and check burning ability with that?
Stick SONY on end of cable, change to CS, or MASTER or SLAVE.
FAiling all that re-install windows XP, check to see if it works?
install sp1 ,check to see if it works?
install sp2 ,check to see if it works??
install sp3 ,check to see if it works???
What does DVDinfopro say about your drive?
IS it perhaps the media? sometimes its best to just throw dodgy media out the door
NEC are good drivesCorned beef is now made to a higher standard than at any time in history.
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Originally Posted by RabidDog
It could possibly (10% chance) be a power issue.. New drive takes more power therefore leaving Burner marginal, able to read but not write?
Boot up LIve LINUX CD and check burning ability with that?
Stick SONY on end of cable, change to CS, or MASTER or SLAVE.
FAiling all that re-install windows XP, check to see if it works?
install sp1 ,check to see if it works?
install sp2 ,check to see if it works??
install sp3 ,check to see if it works???
What does DVDinfopro say about your drive?
IS it perhaps the media? sometimes its best to just throw dodgy media out the door
NEC are good drivesFrank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
if you've had that OPTIARC drive for 2 years it's probably just dying. i've had some made in japan maxell DVD-RW discs fail after 2 years because i used them over and over in my pioneeer dvd recorder. try buying some new ones. dvd burners are so cheap these days buy a new one. just my 2 cents!
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Originally Posted by budz
Not trying to be anal, but this problem is inexplicable.
dvd burners are so cheap these days buy a new one.
One other thing: I checked with Microsoft's HCL (Hardware Compatibility List) and the Optiarc AD-7170A is on the list, for what it's worth.Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
Blow out your upper and lower filters
Re-install Nero with InCD -
Originally Posted by stiltman
Re-install Nero with InCD
Thanks!Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
Installed Nero7 with InCD... No change at all.
Yet another weird discovery:
I removed the Optiarc burner from my main PC and attached it to my secondary PC and it works fine on that PC...
So at this point , the Optiarc works everywhere EXCEPT with my new XP install.Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
Originally Posted by bmwracer
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Originally Posted by budz
Guess I'll borrow an XP disc from work and try installing from that disc... Can't say I'm very optimistic about it.Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
Gonna try a new tactic later today: I'm going to install XP on my new HDD using my old Pioneer burner and once that's done, I'll swap in the Optiarc burner.
If memory serves, my last clean install used the Pioneer burner and I added the Optiarc as an upgrade...
Hope this works, 'cause I'm plum out of ideas.Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
I've used the following method to repair similar optical drive problems. If it doesn't work, you want to check for a firmware update.
Step 1: Start Registry Editor
Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK. Registry Editor starts.
Step 2: Delete the UpperFilters registry entry
1. In Registry Editor, expand My Computer, and then expand HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE.
2. Expand SYSTEM, and then expand CurrentControlSet.
3. Expand Control, and then expand Class.
4. Under Class, click {4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}.
5. In the right pane (topic area), click UpperFilters.
Note An UpperFilters.bak registry entry may also appear. To delete the UpperFilters registry entry, you must click UpperFilters and not UpperFilters.bak.
6. On the Edit menu, click Delete.
7. When you receive the following message, click Yes to confirm the deletion of the UpperFilters registry entry:
Are you sure you want to delete this value?
The UpperFilters registry entry is removed from the {4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} registry subkey.
Note Do not exit Registry Editor. You must have this program for the next step.
Step 3: Delete the LowerFilters registry entry
1. In Registry Editor, expand My Computer, and then expand HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE.
2. Expand SYSTEM, and then expand CurrentControlSet.
3. Expand Control, and then expand Class.
4. Under Class, click {4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}.
5. In the right pane (topic area), click LowerFilters.
Note An LowerFilters.bak registry entry may also appear. To delete the LowerFilters registry entry, you must click LowerFilters and not LowerFilters.bak.
6. On the Edit menu, click Delete.
7. When you receive the following message, click Yes to confirm the deletion of the LowerFilters registry entry:
Are you sure you want to delete this value?
The LowerFilters registry entry is removed from the {4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} registry subkey.
8. Exit Registry Editor.
Step 4: Restart the computer
If a CD recording program no longer works after you restart the computer, you must reinstall the CD recording program. -
^ Thanks, but I've looked into that already: there are no entries for the Upper and Lower Filters in the registry.
And I've updated the firmware on the Optiarc twice already and I've still got the same problem.Frank Zappa: "People wouldn't know a good movie if it smacked 'em in the face." -
Well that's odd.
I've performed that fix about 20 times and those keys were always there.
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