Will 720P and 1080P dvdr discs play on a Non Blu Ray DVD Player?

[donfm]

I have an older top end Denon DVD player. I have been out of the HD loop for a bit. My question is will the newer 720P or even 1080P DVDRs play on my older player? I realize I will not get high def but will they downconvert and play at say 480P or do I need to get a new Blu Ray player?

My TV is an Mitsubishi RPTV which has high def capabilities so the tv will play it if the DVD Player will. My system is NTSC compatible.

[jagabo]

I have an older top end Denon DVD player. I have been out of the HD loop for a bit. My question is will the newer 720P or even 1080P DVDRs play on my older player?

No. No HD material will play on any standard DVD player.

[dun4cheap]

That is not true. The buffalo link theater with progressive dvd player will play hd content from dvd/usb and lan.

[edDV]

That is not true. The buffalo link theater with progressive dvd player will play hd content from dvd/usb and lan.

I was going to bring that up but the the Buffalo Link Theater isn't a standard DVD player (has those magic Sigma Designs 8nnn chips) and can't play HD/BD media. It can play crafted HD files.

OP has a Denon that won't play much other than standard DVD.

[jagabo]

That is not true. The buffalo link theater with progressive dvd player will play hd content from dvd/usb and lan.

I wouldn't call that a "standard DVD player" but there's no point in arguing over the term. In any case a player that could play HD content would prominently advertise the ability and the OP wouldn't have to ask.

[DarrellS]

The courts forced Buffalo to stop selling the player and all of it's wireless products in the United States.

The creators of wireless LAN sued them.

http://www.buffalotech.com/press/rel...-csiro-appeal/

[jagabo]

In any case the OP didn't say he has a Linkplayer2, or a PopcornHour, or a Zensonic Z500 series HD DVD player, or a Tvix HD media player. He said he had a Denon DVD player -- which almost certainly cannot play anything high def.

[dun4cheap]

I was just correcting your statement, there are standard dvd players that have additional functionality. The buffalo link theater is not the only such player.

I also think we will see a large increase of these type of players. Matter of fact, the xbox 360 and PS3 are both capable of this but they are indeed not a standard dvd player. With the increasing popularity of hd, and the increase market of stand alone media servers, I personally think this will be the Blue Ray killer.

I also think we will see philips release a blue ray player that has usb support and all the functionality that its ever so popular standard dvd players offerred. DivX support and HD Divx and WMV-HD support.

[donfm]

Thank you gentlemen for the response. I think I knew the answer already but needed to hear it from the experts. Thanks again. It looks like its time for an upgrade to my dvd player. Any suggestions in the high def market? Is there a good bang for the buck unit right now?

[dun4cheap]

Some here may disagree, but I think things are going to be like Mr. Toads Wild Ride and we are going to see some new hardware options in the next 90 days. With Sony just finalizing 2.0 Blue Ray, we will soon see 3rd generation players hitting the shelves.

[edDV]

Thank you gentlemen for the response. I think I knew the answer already but needed to hear it from the experts. Thanks again. It looks like its time for an upgrade to my dvd player. Any suggestions in the high def market? Is there a good bang for the buck unit right now?

My advice: Wait a year, then evaluate the situation.

In a year, HDTV will be page one* and most market players will have staked a position.


*Feb 17, 2009

[DarrellS]

I personally think this will be the Blue Ray killer.

You notice they're not trying to put anyone else out of business. Only companies who are trying to compete with Blueray.

Sony and their friends have deep enough pockets to fiend off anyone who gets in their way. Kind of like the railroad in the 19th century.

I also think we will see philips release a blue ray player that has usb support and all the functionality that its ever so popular standard dvd players offerred. DivX support and HD Divx and WMV-HD support.

I thought we would've seen a Philips player that plays all formats by now or that HD VMD would've hit the market by now if only for media storage and computer playback but someone is obviously paying big money to keep this stuff out of the market.

I have absolutely no interest in Blueray but I'd love to have any of the other stuff mentioned above.

[theewizard]

sony lost the 'tape war' beta vs vhs, vhs became the std

this time around sony is INTENT on be the winning std, blu-ray is the defacto winner of hi-def DVD-wars, and SONY will go all out against any challenger

[edDV]

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I thought we would've seen a Philips player that plays all formats by now or that HD VMD would've hit the market by now if only for media storage and computer playback but someone is obviously paying big money to keep this stuff out of the market.

I have absolutely no interest in Blueray but I'd love to have any of the other stuff mentioned above.

Sony's BluRay has a current lock on the commercial high definition DVD sales and rental business but I think they are in a fragile position for the "VCR" or "DVD Recorder" segments. I think that territory is wide open and the one player strong enough to be a rules changer is Microsoft. The issues center on DRM management for the home media server including Windows Media Center and XBox connection through cable/sat/Fios/iptv.

They are currently battling with cable companies for a workable "Cablecard" solution for Media Center and Media Server access to HD and SD encrypted QAM channels. The cable companies have been dragging their feet but Microsoft has been relentless.

The new "DVD Recorder" will likely be a server. Once that is established the idea of a BluRay disc gets reduced to one way to load a server much like current software discs. A download is just as good as buying a BluRay disc and more timely. The server will be multi-user with shared access. A BluRay DVD player just doesn't fit the multi-user home model and certainly doesn't fit the mobile media model.

Microsoft has been after this segment for years and backed HD DVD mostly to counter the power of Sony. Microsoft is committed to DRM management but in a much more flexible way than locking playback to a single disc. They need to partner with cable, satellite and telco to fully dominate the distribution side of media. They might just pull it off. The supreme coup would be to partner with Apple for the home server market. Apple may instead partner with Hollywood in some attempt at an exclusive home server DRM deal. I don't think Apple is in a strong enough position to pull that off.

[SatStorm]

Soon we shall see some very cheap solutions, that you could hook whatever storage device you have on them and start playing the files from there.

One SD example is this: http://www.sun-usb.com/product/details/S-CR-1000.htm
They selling those for 28 Euros those days and they are OK for DivX/XviD playback on your standard definition TV: You just connect a HDD or a USB Stick. I bet it is a matter of time until High Definition versions appear in the market (and I don't mean devices like TviX/Popcorn/etc, those are multimedia terminals / digital jukeboxes ).

This is a whole new and different market and IMO, doesn't harm the need of a format for the "official releases". DVD manage to determine over the years how a medium that contain an official release must be. BD gonna serve that market.
The playback of HD material is another market.

BTW, if you have an older laptop, look out for GeeXboX. Any laptop can be a slim multimedia player with that distro and really easy!

[dun4cheap]

So Panasonic has announced a certified divx/blue ray player.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/Panason...s-Release.html

[dun4cheap]

Here is some info about the Linksys media player maybe sporting a new Blue drive around xmas time.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/CeBIT-L...t-yet-blu.html

[jaxxboss]

I Farted

[jamesbonddd]

Can HD content recorded from TV in 720p Be played on a standard DVD player? I have a Phillips HTS3544 Home theatre and in the settings it has options for 720p and 1080i. I set it to 720p and tried to play a Divx encoded file in 720p burned to a DVD and the player said the resolution was not supported. I am going to upgrade the firmware of the player and try again. Could this work? It does play on my PC. My TV supports 720p and 1080i and I am using HDMI cables.

[jagabo]

So Panasonic has announced a certified divx/blue ray player.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/Panason...s-Release.html

Denon and Philips too:

http://www.divx.com/company/press/pr....php?pr_id=297

[jagabo]

Can HD content recorded from TV in 720p Be played on a standard DVD player?

No.

I have a Phillips HTS3544 Home theatre and in the settings it has options for 720p and 1080i. I set it to 720p and tried to play a Divx encoded file in 720p burned to a DVD and the player said the resolution was not supported.

Those settings are only for upscaled output.

I am going to upgrade the firmware of the player and try again. Could this work?

No. Standard DVD players don't have the horespower for HD material. There are a few HD Divx players. Prices start around US$250.

http://www.ziova.com/
http://www.z500series.com/
http://www.tvixbox.com/
http://www.popcornhour.com/

[jman98]

http://www.istarhd.com/
is another player said to play HD Divx.